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Old 01-18-2008, 10:50 PM
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Default Womens Rights - The reason I'm pro choice.

I realize a lot of you will probably be rather irate about this but I ask you to consider the following before you pass judgment for my beliefs.
-In single parent households, 90+% of the time, a woman is left to raise a child.

-A woman should never be forced to carry a child that was the result of incest, rape, or coercion.

-If a woman is taken advantage of at a party, why should she be faced with the job of explaining to the child why she doesn't know who the father is?

-A woman should have more than enough right to abort at ANY time, provided that child birth could result in the death of her, the fetus, or both.
Some people need to get a grip on life and stop trying to force religious beliefs down the throats of our entire nation. To be perfectly honest, if God is loving and forgiving, If a mother truly believed abortion was the best outcome, it should be left at that. The abortion should be between her and God, not her and the protesters that get in her way and harass her in front of the clinic.

While I agree that some controls must be maintained to prevent people from abusing the right to abort, it should ultimately be the Woman's choice. Too many of you forget who has to carry the child.

I would appreciate constructive criticism and rational replies. I don't expect all of you that read this to accept it, but I do ask that you remain civil. If you're going to try and give me a lesson on religion, take your and be gone.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:31 AM
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-If a woman is taken advantage of at a party, why should she be faced with the job of explaining to the child why she doesn't know who the father is?
Why should a *woman* be at that type of party to begin with is what I want to know. I'm a guy and I don't go to those types of parties.

Sluts go to those types of parties. Not women.
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Well first off do you abortion is killing?...well if you are pro-choice I'm guessing you don't believe its killing but what would be your definition of ending someone else life...before you say I'm forcing my religious beliefs on people I would say i'm not, its just stating my personal belief. I just believe killing is killing no matter who you kill
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I realize a lot of you will probably be rather irate about this but I ask you to consider the following before you pass judgment for my beliefs.
[indent]-In single parent households, 90+% of the time, a woman is left to raise a child.

-A woman should never be forced to carry a child that was the result of incest, rape, or coercion.

-If a woman is taken advantage of at a party, why should she be faced with the job of explaining to the child why she doesn't know who the father is?

-A woman should have more than enough right to abort at ANY time, provided that child birth could result in the death of her, the fetus, or both.

I would appreciate constructive criticism and rational replies. I don't expect all of you that read this to accept it, but I do ask that you remain civil. If you're going to try and give me a lesson on religion, take your and be gone.
1) I believe life begins at conception because each fertilized human embryo is a unique genetic design for a human being. If left alone it will grow into a person, be born and enjoy all the things which being alive brings to you and me. I do not believe that anyone, not even the mother, should be allowed to prevent this person from having the opportunity to live.

2) There are a plethora of contraceptive methods especially in this day and age. Most women who become pregnant have chosen to have sex without employing any of these methods.

3) A minority of women conceive as a result of rape or incest or coercion. The resulting embryo or fetus was not a party to the decision as to how it was conceived. Do you think that is appropriate that we punish the children for the sins of their fathers?

4) Legal abortion is not safe. Many say if we make abortion illegal, there will be back alley abortions and many women will die. Since Roe vs. Wade, the numbers of abortions have skyrocketed. So many women have died due to complications of legal abortions; it may exceed the number of deaths due illegal abortions. Many states have never kept statistics on it. Others states that did have been pressured to stop keeping the statistics by the abortion lobby; and the CDC and the National Center for Health Statistics have been pressured by the democrats in congress to re-categorize these deaths as complications of pregnancy or surgery or even natural causes or other things. Most are never reported.

5) Many women experience regret, remorse and post abortion syndrome as a result of having abortions.

http://afterabortion.com/

This is one of many support groups.

6) I have met or seen many women on TV who had thought about having an abortion and didn't, even women who were victims of rape. I have yet to hear one mother say, "I wish I had gotten my child aborted".

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4) Legal abortion is not safe. Many say if we make abortion illegal, there will be back alley abortions and many women will die. Since Roe vs. Wade, the numbers of abortions have skyrocketed. So many women have died due to complications of legal abortions; it may exceed the number of deaths due illegal abortions. Many states have never kept statistics on it. Others states that did have been pressured to stop keeping the statistics by the abortion lobby; and the CDC and the National Center for Health Statistics have been pressured by the democrats in congress to re-categorize these deaths as complications of pregnancy or surgery or even natural causes or other things. Most are never reported.

actually if you look at the statistics it is safer to have an abortion than to give birth.

http://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/safety.html
http://www.prochoice.org/about_abort..._abortion.html


5) Many women experience regret, remorse and post abortion syndrome as a result of having abortions.



Women who choose to have a child have similar problems after birth. It's called postpartum depression.
http://www.4woman.gov/FAQ/postpartum.htm#2
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1) Many states have never kept statistics on it. Others states that did have been pressured to stop keeping the statistics by the abortion lobby; and the CDC and the National Center for Health Statistics have been pressured by the democrats in congress to re-categorize these deaths as complications of pregnancy or surgery or even natural causes or other things. Most are never reported.

cite your source please.
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cite your source please.
What is the point of citing my source? I could look up where I got this information, and post it, and you'd say, well that's according to this or that pro-life organization.

You know how I know? Cause I look at your sources, and they are pro-choice organizations. How can we believe their statistics?

Having an abortion is safer than giving birth?! Come on, then I guess all women should have abortions if they are pregnant because that would be the "safe" thing to do. It also flies in the face of my argument that abortion is not safe and that the stats haven't been kept on it.

If you disagree then fine. If you want sources for a pro-life argument, they are all over the internet.

I'll look 'em up later.
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First of all exponent, if you want to keep religion out of this don't say that God is supposed to be all loving and forgiving and then expect him to forgive someone who willingly kills an innocent, undefedable life. I am not very religious but if i were God, i sure as hell wouldn't forgive someone who did that.
Also, i agree with abortion in cases where the mother didn't voluntarily have or is in harms way. But that also makes up a small portion of the abortions that are performed. Most are the case of, "I had sex, got pregnant, and am to stupid to deal with it."
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1) Since Roe vs. Wade, the numbers of abortions have skyrocketed.
Actually the abortion rates have been declining pretty steadily since 1980.
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well considering before ROEvWADE abortion was illegal in 46 states, i would consider that a skyrocket in numbers because now its legal in 50. duh?!?!?
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