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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    Here are the contents of a trash bag found in a dumster right outside an abortion clinic from the 1960's



    This is what a saline induced abortion does to the baby:


    http://www.mccl.org/page.aspx?pid=295
    Those are pretty gros photos dude.


    Aside from posting new photos, could you address the questions here:
    Foeticide: a Holocaust of Babies
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
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    Abortion forbiden after 20 weeks in most American states:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/27/us/27abortion.html


    Quote Originally Posted by MegadethFan View Post
    Those are pretty gros photos dude.
    I am sure that is what the Nazis thought about pictures taken in the concentration camps.
    Last edited by Anders Hoveland; Jun 10 2012 at 10:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    Abortion forbiden after 20 weeks in most American states:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/27/us/27abortion.html
    That's a shame. In Victoria its up to birth. I actually feel Victorian law goes to far in that you can be a kid and not have to tell your parents amongst other things. I've written a letter to my local MP about it., Unfortunately she's one in the minority that actually wants to change this little loop holes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    I am sure that is what the Nazis thought about pictures taken in the concentration camps.
    No, they probably laugh at them. If you go to the Jewish conspiracy threads on PF you can see them do it yourself, although I'd wager some one of them dont call themselves nazis openly.

    Going to address my question above now?
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    Abortion forbiden after 20 weeks in most American states:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/27/us/27abortion.html
    As a pro-choice, I applaud this decision. Only a tiny minority of pro-choice "extremists" support late-term abortions, which is basically not really different than murdering a born baby in my book, because it is already similarly developed at that time. Dont associate all of us with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    Abortion forbiden after 20 weeks in most American states:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/27/us/27abortion.html
    So why do lifers seem to focus mostly on those abortions performed after this time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blasphemer View Post
    As a pro-choice, I applaud this decision. Only a tiny minority of pro-choice "extremists" support late-term abortions, which is basically not really different than murdering a born baby in my book, because it is already similarly developed at that time. Dont associate all of us with them.
    I must be an extremist then, to support late term abortion. Its still a fetus, and it is still inside the woman - what has changed to make you think that she shouldn't be allowed to make a choice about her body?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    Here are the contents of a trash bag found in a dumster right outside an abortion clinic from the 1960's



    This is what a saline induced abortion does to the baby:


    http://www.mccl.org/page.aspx?pid=295
    Nearly all anti-abortion propaganda pictures are faked. Fake is a LIE. If you need LIES to make your case, you don't have a case.

    http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.or...ut_photos.html

    A considerable number of anti-abortion visuals feature an almost fully developed fetus. Abortions preformed at this stage via hysterotomy or D&X abortions are rare. Only about 1.5% of abortions are performed at 21-weeks or older, according to according to a 2000 study conducted by the Nation Center for Chronic Disease (CDC)

    http://civilliberty.about.com/od/abo...rtionmyths.htm

    3. "This is what an abortion looks like."

    Almost always false. Many abortion protest photographs are artist's renderings or the result of image manipulation, and the bulk of the rest are of very late-term fetuses aborted for emergency medical reasons. The most well-known graphic abortion poster is of a 30-week-old fetus, aborted six full weeks into the third trimester. The vast majority of abortions are performed during the first trimester, and Roe v. Wade only protects first and second trimester abortions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makedde View Post
    I must be an extremist then, to support late term abortion. Its still a fetus, and it is still inside the woman - what has changed to make you think that she shouldn't be allowed to make a choice about her body?
    Once there are brain waves in the cerebral cortex (after 20 weeks), its no longer her body, but a separate person with a mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blasphemer View Post
    Once there are brain waves in the cerebral cortex (after 20 weeks), its no longer her body, but a separate person with a mind.
    Yeah but so what? It still cant facilitate an interest in being alive until around 28 days after birth.
    Last edited by MegadethFan; Jun 11 2012 at 08:45 AM.
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegadethFan View Post
    Yeah but so what? It still cant facilitate an interest in being alive until around 28 days after birth.
    So what if it can't? Again that's just begging the question - it's no different than me just saying that Megadeth fan has no right to life because his taste in music sucks, and going from there. That's not an argument, it's just begging the question.
    Last edited by SpaceCricket79; Jun 11 2012 at 08:56 AM.

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