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Thread: Foeticide: a Holocaust of Babies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cady View Post
    Hitler banned abortion for some women and forced abortion on others.
    What exactly is wrong with protecting half the babies on the one hand, and giving half the women the right to "choose" on the other?
    By your pro-abortion logic, wouldn't this just be racism against german women?

    And why should it be the woman's right to choose whether her baby lives or dies? By your own logic, if a woman can have the right to control her baby, why shouldn't the government have a right to control women's control of the baby? And since you say the baby had no right to life, obviously you cannot argue that forced abortions are evil.
    Last edited by Anders Hoveland; Jun 15 2012 at 06:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    What exactly is wrong with protecting half the babies on the one hand, and giving half the women the right to "choose" on the other?
    By your pro-abortion logic, wouldn't this just be racism against german women?

    And why should it be the woman's right to choose whether her baby lives or dies? By your own logic, if a woman can have the right to control her baby, why shouldn't the government have a right to control women's control of the baby? And since you say the baby had no right to life, obviously you cannot argue that forced abortions are evil.
    By your logic, you are retarded. I have never seen such a blatant manipulation of another person's arguments.
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    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    What exactly is wrong with protecting half the babies on the one hand, and giving half the women the right to "choose" on the other?
    So now you are defending Hitler's abortion policies? Why the quotation marks around the word "choose"? The right of choice is simply a woman's human right to control her own body.

    By your pro-abortion logic, wouldn't this just be racism against german women?
    Government control of any woman's reproductive organs is anti-woman.

    And why should it be the woman's right to choose whether her baby lives or dies?
    A woman doesn't doesn't have a right to choose whether her "baby" lives or dies. Please use accurate terminology.

    By your own logic, if a woman can have the right to control her baby, why shouldn't the government have a right to control women's control of the baby?
    A woman has a right to control her body; the government should not.

    And since you say the baby had no right to life, obviously you cannot argue that forced abortions are evil.
    Government forced abortion is government control of a woman's uterus, just as banning abortion is.
    "Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They all want to control women."--Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    115 thousand abortions are carried out every day. So 1.5% of that is still more than a thousand.


    unless her boyfriend breaks up with her, or she loses her job, and she changes her mind about wanting the baby.
    People like you will always focus on the worst possible case. . .and ignore that abortion is very rarely a "light hearted" decision, but that late term abortion is hell for most women who have carried a child for that long.

    You know what they say: "you don't see people as they are, you see them as you are"
    Based on your comments. . .i don't think I care to know you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cady View Post
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    Communists, trade unionists, and Jews are all established people. There are many more actual people you could speak out for...




    I've noticed that men who are opposed to abortion have never experienced pregnancy/childbirth.
    more women are opposed to abortion than men...
    OBAMA'S SPEECH TO A CROWD THE DAY AFTER SANDY SWEPT THRU.
    Americans have suffered a real tragedy, and it affects ALL AMERICANS, and we will not finish helping here until everyone has been helped, we will leave no American behind.....
    unless you are in Benghazi.

    ITS a win/win for republicans, Obama is going down on Nov 7th, and if by some miracle she doesnt, Benghazi will take him down and be his legacy. And for a triple triple, Hillary is going to be roasted on this also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cady View Post
    So now you are defending Hitler's abortion policies? Why the quotation marks around the word "choose"? The right of choice is simply a woman's human right to control her own body
    A woman has a right to control her body; the government should not. .
    Im surprised anyone at all is still running with the un scientific notion that the unborn baby is part of her body, biologically, medically and scientifically, we know that is wrong.
    OBAMA'S SPEECH TO A CROWD THE DAY AFTER SANDY SWEPT THRU.
    Americans have suffered a real tragedy, and it affects ALL AMERICANS, and we will not finish helping here until everyone has been helped, we will leave no American behind.....
    unless you are in Benghazi.

    ITS a win/win for republicans, Obama is going down on Nov 7th, and if by some miracle she doesnt, Benghazi will take him down and be his legacy. And for a triple triple, Hillary is going to be roasted on this also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The DARK LORD View Post
    Im surprised anyone at all is still running with the un scientific notion that the unborn baby is part of her body, biologically, medically and scientifically, we know that is wrong.
    That isn't what I said, but regardless, the fetus IS attached to the woman and IS sustained by her. Don't you believe it's a woman's right to determine if and when her body is used by another?
    Last edited by Cady; Jun 16 2012 at 10:29 AM.
    "Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They all want to control women."--Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by The DARK LORD View Post
    more women are opposed to abortion than men...
    It's about the same:



    http://www.publicagenda.org/charts/m...ality-abortion

    About 77% of anti-abortion leaders are men.
    "Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They all want to control women."--Hillary Clinton

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    You have the choice, kids - accept abortion or enslave women. What's the point of ranting about it?
    Gobeithiaw y ddaw ydd wyf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cady View Post
    That isn't what I said, but regardless, the fetus IS attached to the woman and IS sustained by her. Don't you believe it's a woman's right to determine if and when her body is used by another?
    not when anothers life is involved.
    besides, its simply a disengenuous arguement. The real concern is right to abortion.
    OBAMA'S SPEECH TO A CROWD THE DAY AFTER SANDY SWEPT THRU.
    Americans have suffered a real tragedy, and it affects ALL AMERICANS, and we will not finish helping here until everyone has been helped, we will leave no American behind.....
    unless you are in Benghazi.

    ITS a win/win for republicans, Obama is going down on Nov 7th, and if by some miracle she doesnt, Benghazi will take him down and be his legacy. And for a triple triple, Hillary is going to be roasted on this also.

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