Thread: Is Nebraska really considering giving immunity to anyone who kills doctors. . .

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

No that's stupid. That's like calling a female child a "not-quite-there-but-will-one-day-be-a-woman-later" woman. Quite pointless and retarded. A child is a child just as a fetus is a fetus and a woman is a woman.

Consider that i used the term woman to describe a "female human".

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Well no because the person I'm killing wants to kill someone else, hence its "self defence" as you called it and thus perfectly ok under your logic.

The person you want to kill is using lethal force to stop a murderous doctor. You would kill that person and also allow the doctor to kill another person. I'm shocked!

Not at all, it would make me a moral agent, as you described, because I'm defending an innocent life - because there is NOTHING WRONG IN KILLING A FETUS.

No if it wanted to be alive it would have a mind to exhibit such an interest. It doesn't, hence it has no interest in its life.[/QUOTE]
You said the fetus

doesn't want to be alive.

There is no proof to suggest that the fetus has suicidal feelings. Or that the fetus as an organism has no interest to live before it can feel. Every living being has an interest to live until it consciously decides otherwise. And we're already talking about this in the other thread.

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

This has to be the most stupid thing I've seen a bunch of lifers ever do.

Dont they realize woman will just go back to coat hangers and infanticide?

(*)(*)(*)(*)ing morons.

And they will be held accountable, they're not morons.

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

It's a step in the right direction.

no it is not

Originally Posted by FreshAir

no it is not

yes it is

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

Consider that i used the term woman to describe a "female human".

Yeah, like how you might use "cat" to mean "truck". Sorry, a woman is not a fetus.

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

yes it is

No, its is not. Like I said, it will set the precedent where people will just kill anyone for a cause they feel is in the name of self defence. So someone could kill every Republican on the basis they might start an unjust war.

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

The person you want to kill is using lethal force to stop a murderous doctor.

How is the doctor murderous? Murder is a legal term. The law saws abortion is ok and that killing doctors is wrong so by any serious description you should say "the murderer you want to kill is using lethal force to stop an innocent doctor?" My answer to which is an affirmative YES, if I use your logic of killing anyone in the name of self defence.

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

You would kill that person and also allow the doctor to kill another person. I'm shocked!

Now you've lost me. I dont know what you are talking about here.

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

There is no proof to suggest that the fetus has suicidal feelings.

LOL The evidence is the fetus has no feelings at all aside from physical ones. That's the whole point! If you dont have a mind, you clearly have no interest in being alive. If you have no interest in being alive you have no opinion about being killed - because you dont even know you are alive or that you even exist!

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

Or that the fetus as an organism has no interest to live before it can feel. Every living being has an interest to live until it consciously decides otherwise.

Wrong. You need a mind to have an interest in being alive. A fetus has no mind thus no interest in being alive. No matter how you try to phrase it you cant avoid this fact.

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

And we're already talking about this in the other thread.

Indeed, I dont mind repeating myself. I've done about three times in just about every comment I've responded to you with.

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Yeah, like how you might use "cat" to mean "truck". Sorry, a woman is not a fetus.

Sorry, but i used the term woman in that sense, and the guy who was talking about unborn woman was using it in that sense and it is a viable definition.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/woman

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

And they will be held accountable,

No they wont. Back ally abortions and illegal cases of infanticide have been very common in societies that legalize abortion and most of these incidents go untouched by the police - nor can the police stop their continuation. Read a book mate. Abortions have been conducted since mankind started having offspring.

Originally Posted by DorkdoltConservative

they're not morons.

No, they're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing morons.