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Last edited by MegadethFan; Jun 17 2012 at 10:28 PM.
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I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.
"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky
As fetuses do have a capacity to have an interest, assuming their drug addict baby mommies don't murder them for convenience.
As abortion does to innocent babies, yes.What's more you are violating his autonomy, not to mention the preexisting pursuit of his interests.
I only support innocent life, not that which is evil, such as Josef Meng... I mean Mike Tooley.Incidentally, you clearly aren't "pro-life." LOL Ignorant and contradictory - you lifers are hilarious.
Once again you are completely wrong. They have no such capacity until 26-28 days AFTER BIRTH.
No, because a fetus is not autonomous from its mother - an infant is, but the infant still has no interest in its existence until 26 days as mentioned above.
Exactly, so you're not pro-life. You're "supportive of some life."
Last edited by MegadethFan; Jun 17 2012 at 10:54 PM.
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I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.
"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky
Right, then I'll keep him in a medically-induced coma lasting for 26-28 days - therefore I can execute him in that time and it'll be morally justifiable, since he has no interest in remaining alive in his comatose state.
While in a comatose state he would not be autonomous of whoever is providing him care/life support. lolNo, because a fetus is not autonomous from its mother - an infant is, but the infant still has no interest in its existence until 26 days as mentioned above.
Correct - those who deny rights of others deserve them not for themselves.Exactly, so you're not pro-life. You're "supportive of some life."
Anyone who defends infanticide is no better than a NAMBLA member.
Megadeth---to me your posts are very honest. I think that most avid pro-abortion people on this board share your views----as they don't dispute them. And I think that ultimately abortion is simply the devaluation of children. In general--if children are devalued then the "me" mentality which is the liberal position---can flourish. Not just for abortion but in many policies such as changing the focus for marriage, co-habitation, etc. Any sacrifice for a fetus, newborn or child who does not offer obvious gratification to its care-taker is abhorrent to liberals who want policies that worship the "self".
It would be interesting to see if some fanatical abortion believers will at least be a little appalled over the killing of newborns. So far---no.
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