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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranes56 View Post
    That's just disgusting that you would compare it to the Holocaust.
    How so? They are looking at killing off half the population of the world's largest country?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bclark View Post
    How so? They are looking at killing off half the population of the world's largest country?
    Because it does'nt fit the defention of genocide.
    "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it."- American Philosopher George Santayana

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranes56 View Post
    I'm simply disgusted. Millions have died in genocides, but people don't seem to care and use the term for political points.
    To restate the facts, over twice the amount of deaths that happened in the holocaust is happening EVERY YEAR in China. It totals up to almost 100 Million deaths which is significantly more than the 6 million that died in the holocaust. (http://www.allgirlsallowed.org/gende...ina-statistics). Why is this different, because they're women instead of Jews?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bclark View Post
    To restate the facts, over twice the amount of deaths that happened in the holocaust is happening EVERY YEAR in China. It totals up to almost 100 Million deaths which is significantly more than the 6 million that died in the holocaust. (http://www.allgirlsallowed.org/gende...ina-statistics). Why is this different, because they're women instead of Jews?
    Nope, its because they are fetuses.
    "Billions for equal chances, not a penny for equal results."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickT View Post
    Non-responsive and irrelevant. You support gendercide? The killing for gender preference.
    You said, baselessly, "gendercide is OK with liberals." Real women die 14 times more in childbirth than abortion; that's what you support. Abortion doesn't kill people, so it isn't genocide. Chinese government restrictions are the source of the problem, not choice. If choice were not available to women, more baby girls would be abandoned or killed, which happens regardless of the availability of abortion.
    Last edited by Cady; Jul 02 2012 at 01:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cady View Post
    Real women die 14 times more in childbirth than abortion; that's what you support.
    Wow, that's a quote for the ages. I think that many times more babies die in abortions than in childbirth, but that's OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bclark View Post
    Wow, that's a quote for the ages. I think that many times more babies die in abortions than in childbirth, but that's OK.
    No "babies" die in abortions. Most abortions are performed by the 8th week, the embryo stage.
    "Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They all want to control women."--Hillary Clinton

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    We are having 300.000 abortions and 100.000 births every year , everyone is happy about it.
    I am grateful to my government for not having to support a child since the age of 17 .

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    Being pro-choice automatically puts you at odds with China's policies because many times, those are not abortions that are "chosen", they are forced. There's a difference. Pro-choicers, at least ones who are truly pro-choice, want the mother to be the one who chooses. Not another person, not the government, but the mother.
    "The whole "us verses them/right verses left" mentality is childish; leave that crap in the sporting arena and understand that political discussions are no place for torrid, angry argument, rather rational dialogue whereby we may deepen and hone our own beliefs. Anyone declaring "liberalism" or "conservatism" as finite terms distinguishing absolute morality is grossly misguided and closed minded. They're just words; and we're just people. Political positions aren't sports teams." - TitoSparks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junkieturtle View Post
    Being pro-choice automatically puts you at odds with China's policies because many times, those are not abortions that are "chosen", they are forced. There's a difference. Pro-choicers, at least ones who are truly pro-choice, want the mother to be the one who chooses. Not another person, not the government, but the mother.
    I thought it was more like:
    Pro choice = Pro sex selective abortions

    because we all want to choose the sex of our baby, the hair color, eyes, etc...

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