Thread: Question for pro-aborts…………...

Originally Posted by Makedde

Could someone who is against welfare payments stand and watch a poor person die? Could someone watch a heart transplant even though they have a fear of blood? Could a person in favor of the death penalty administer that lethal injection?

Your OP fails a million times over.

Hey start a thread on those I would be happen to debate them….THIS ONE HOWEVER IS ABOUT ABORTION….DID YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION?

Originally Posted by churchmouse

How many women denied an abortion die?

Obviously we don't know how many women were denied abortion die but we do have a good estimate of the number of women that wouldn't have died if they would have had an abortion.

In 2005 there were 11 deaths related to childbirth per 100,000 births. There were approximately 4 million births in 2005 so about 440 women's lives would have been saved if they would have had an abortion for 2005 alone.

http://www.chacha.com/question/what-...-in-childbirth

http://geography.about.com/od/popula...babyboom_2.htm

We also don't know how many women's lives were save because they were allowed to have an abortion. It would be logical to assume, because abortion is legal and women can learn if their life is in danger, that far more than the 440 in 2005 were saved because they didn't have to experience child birth.

Originally Posted by FreshAir

I could not watch someone chop of their leg because of infection, but I would not want the procedure banned because of that

yes or no….could you stand next to an abortionist and watch him perform an abortion.

Originally Posted by churchmouse

…its about abortion that kills a human being.

As my post directly addressed this the pre-born are not legally "persons" and only the unlawful killing of a person is at issue. Many things can be "killed" such as sheep, goats and cancer cells but that does not imply that "murder" is being committed and, in fact, it has not.

Many anti-abortionists like to believe that "murder" is being committed but before they can make that claim first they need to establish "personhood" of the pre-born because currently the pre-born are not persons and cannot be murdered.

Originally Posted by Mr_Truth

Unlike forum RepubliCONs, I am a genuine pro lifer who believes in integrity and consistency in the application of principles. I want all babies to be born, loved, and cherished because children are SACRED. Unlike Republicans such as Margaret Sanger, her Republican financiers (op cit), and forum right wingers, I not only believe they should be allowed to be born, but they should be allowed to thrive as well.

Here is an example of such a sacred child who would have died under RepubliCONcare:


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Even though I do not know this beautiful little girl and will never meet her, I still feel her life is sacred. Thanks to President Obama she and many other children will live, much to the disappointment of pro death forum RepubliCONs.

ARE you pro-choice? If you are then you condone abortion and want no protection for the unborn….despite what you say here.

What you want is socialism. You want to force people to do what you want them to do. No one should be forced to buy health insurance they don't want. And no one should be forced to buy someone else a house…or a car or health insurance. This thread however is not about Obama Care….this asks a simple question…..could you stand next to an abortionist and watch an abortion. Yes or no.

And I am not talking about children already born….this is about THE CHILD IN THE WOMB. AND IF YOU WERE SUCH A GENUINE PRO-LIFER YOU WOULD REALIZE IT.

Could you watch a live abortion….THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD.

Originally Posted by PatrickT

The mother was 15. She thought she was five months pregnant. The doctors diagnosed her with a heart problem and said the pregnancy had to be terminated. With me so far. When they went to remove the "fetus" they found she wasn't five months pregnant but was more likely seven months pregnant. Since they had neither poisoned the fetus or torn it to shreds and since they didn't throttle it when they removed the "fetus" the fetus lived and is now twelve years old. She is now a twelve year old fetus. Get it. She wasn't actually born. She was the product of an abortion. In he U.S. she would not exist because she would have been poisoned, pulled apart, or smothered when she first breathed air.

OK THANKS FOR EXPLAINING. What I don't get is that the doctors did not even determine how far along she was. This is not hard to do with ultrasound. And in later term abortion an ultrasound is always done. Nevertheless she was a product of a botched abortion…not sure how they were trying to kill her…but she lived. Praise God. This child was always a child from conception.

Originally Posted by churchmouse

yes or no….could you stand next to an abortionist and watch him perform an abortion.

While I can't answer for others I could watch it. Not a problem at all. Why should it be?

Then again I know people that get queezy just cleaning a fish......

Originally Posted by churchmouse

This child was always a child from conception.

Prior to birth it is either a zygote, embryo or fetus and it is not a child. Childhood begins at birth.

This question is so hard for some to answer…….wow.

I am not asking for an essay…a long response. Just a yes or no.

You don't need to elaborate…………..just yes or no will do. It only involves…no more than three keys on your keyboards.

LOL

Originally Posted by churchmouse

I started this thread for one reason…to call pro-aborts to the table…the abortion table.

My reasoning for doing so worked because no one but I believe on person has really addressed it…and said yes.

The question is a simple one. Yes or no. This is not about heart surgery, or any other surgery…its about abortion that kills a human being. Why is this so tough to answer guys?

And look at what happened…all sorts of excuses as to why they won't answer.

The fact that this is happening speaks volumes and proves the point I was trying to make…at least to myself.

I'm really not sure why you think that getting someone pro-choice to admit they wouldn't want to witness an abortion means you've achieved some kind of "game changer". I don't particularly want to view ANY medical procedures. Why would an abortion be any different? On the flip side, because I DON'T want to view someone getting a colonoscopy, should we outlaw those too because they must be immoral since I don't want to view one?

You know what, I just had an epiphany.

I don't like "viewing" my bills. Can we outlaw bills? Please? I don't like viewing myself giving my money to someone else for something I am purchasing because then that money is no longer mine. Lets outlaw having to pay for stuff too.