Abortion Ends - Terrorism Wins - Page 2

kuta777 · #11 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 06:46 AM

i never said that is was their right and i do not support it. I said that i understand why they do it and I know they shouldn't do it but i do not NECESSARILY think they are bad people. To me its the same as the death penalty. Murdering a murderer evens out in my eyes.

shadowman · #12 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggy

The day that abortions become outlawed by the U.S government, the self proclaimed "Leading Democracy", will be a sad day for freedom.

The way I see it, it will also be a legitimate victory for terrorism!
Over 30 years of terrorising and committing criminal acts, against both abortion providers and abortion clinics, will prove that you can get your way in the U.S.A by applying violence and intimidating your rivals.

1. Arson, Bombing, and Property crime

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included:

41 bombings
173 arsons
91 attempted bombings or arsons
619 bomb threats
1630 incidents of trespassing
1264 incidents of vandalism
100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs")

2. Murder, Attempted Murder, Assault, and Threats

Violence directed toward abortion providers has killed 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort. In addition there have been:

17 attempted murders
383 death threats
153 incidents of assault or battery
3 kidnappings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-related_violence

Just because acts of violence are directed against pro-abortion institutions does not mean it is still not wrong. Tell me if paedeophiles were attackd and beaten do you believe that gives them the right to carry on doing what they do. It is wrong for people to attack p[eople in such away, but this does not take away from the fact that those who are being attacked are also wrong in what they are doing.

catzmeow · #13 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 11:33 AM

In summary, two wrongs don't make a right.

Coyote · #14 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kuta777

I do not condone murder at all but I actually have respect for people who blow up abortion clinics. they try to do it at night or when noone is there. But it is people who are fed up of seeing this rediculous murder go on and don't see any other way they can help them.

Of course you condone murder if you respect murderers. You support terrorism every bit as much as those "Islamofascists" dying for their 72 virgins (or raisins) or Palestinians sending rockets into Israel's civilian population in hopes of independence - by the fact that you respect them and by natural extension their acts.

Coyote · #15 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kuta777

i never said that is was their right and i do not support it. I said that i understand why they do it and I know they shouldn't do it but i do not NECESSARILY think they are bad people. To me its the same as the death penalty. Murdering a murderer evens out in my eyes.

You are saying two completely opposing things:

i never said that is was their right and i do not support it.

and

To me its the same as the death penalty. Murdering a murderer evens out in my eyes.

Which is it?

Sharon Tate · #16 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuta777

i never said that is was their right and i do not support it. I said that i understand why they do it and I know they shouldn't do it but i do not NECESSARILY think they are bad people. To me its the same as the death penalty. Murdering a murderer evens out in my eyes.

I understand why women have abortions, too.
You realise what your statement here means?
If I killed someone, someone has the right to kill me, someone has the right to kill the person that killed me, someone has the right to kill the person who killed the person who killed me, and so on and so forth. Is this is what you mean?

Chesby05 · #17 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008, 01:40 AM

No - but it's what you mean, because you condone the killing of a foetus. Therefore, by your own logic, if it's ok to kill a foetus, it must be ok to kill you, too.

Sharon Tate · #18 (**permalink**) 03-20-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chesby05

No - but it's what you mean, because you condone the killing of a foetus. Therefore, by your own logic, if it's ok to kill a foetus, it must be ok to kill you, too.

And you know that my belief is that a fetus is not human, and does not deserve the same rights as I. I believe it would be wrong to kill me because I am born.

My question to Kuta was good one, though, he thinks it's okay to kill a murderer, well, I gave him a little senario to think about.

PatriotNews · #19 (**permalink**) 03-20-2008, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggy

Violence directed toward abortion providers has killed 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.

(reported) Number of women killed by abortions since 1972: 485

Quote:

During 2001--2002 (the most recent years for which data are available), 15 women died as a result of complications from known legal induced abortion. One death was associated with known illegal abortion.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...cid=ss5511a1_e

For 1972--2000, a total of 470 abortion-related deaths (6) were reported in the 2001 abortion MMWR Surveillance Summary (Table 19) (6). Deaths that fit the case definition of abortion-related mortality will be reported in subsequent abortion surveillance reports.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5407a1.htm

Don't see ya complaining about that, do we?

kuta777 · #20 (**permalink**) 03-20-2008, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Coyote

Of course you condone murder if you respect murderers. You support terrorism every bit as much as those "Islamofascists" dying for their 72 virgins (or raisins) or Palestinians sending rockets into Israel's civilian population in hopes of independence - by the fact that you respect them and by natural extension their acts.

I do not condone murder. I said already that i do not agree that what they did was right. If you would have read you would see that i said i understand why they did it and i do not hold them responsible for it. To me, abortionists are murderers so in my book, they have it coming. I do not feel bad for any abortion supporter who has been hurt by a pro-lifer and you can quote that all you want you left-wingers.

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