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Old 03-17-2008, 12:40 AM
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I'm actually 24, and if your brother is pro life like you, he'll probably tell you a (*)(*)(*)(*) load of bullcrap like some other people here.
I'm not being funny, you lot are the ones who have lost the plot. I did say that I know what I am talking about, and believe me, I do.
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I know you do - for now. Just wait. You'll see.

Actually my brother is a criminal lawyer who prosecutes paedophiles and sex criminals for a living. His moral fibre makes yours look like it grew in a petri dish in a tank full of slime.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a pro-lifer. I am very happy for a woman to have an abortion in her first trimester. In fact if it's necessary I'm happy for her to have one later than that.

I just don't pretend to hide behind imaginary ideals and silly notions to uphold my belief. I'm brave enough to say it straight out, without having to pretend that foetuses aren't human beings or that they're alive but not alive. I don't need smoke and mirrors to defend my beliefs - unlike others I could mention.
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They are not human beings. I am a human being. You are a human being. How is a fetus a human being? Is a fetus the same as you or I? No. You cannot say a fetus is a human being when they are nothing like the both of us.
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Ok chicken. Whatever makes you happy.

I'm off to learn some more about my human child. You can go play with your little dolls - or whatever it is you do.
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So answer me - what makes a fetus the same kind of human being as you or I? Tell me, or else I assume you can't answer.
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I have answered it several times. It's DNA. The way it looks. The way it develops. The way it has a beating heart and every other physical characteristic of being human. The way it responds to light, sound, warmth and touch when it is in the womb.

I mean, honestly - a one day old child isn't a life like yours or mine, either. I don't consider 24 hours can make a difference - 24 hours before birth or 24 hours afterwards. It's still the same little person. Just outside, not in.
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I'm sorry, but a 20 week old fetus looks nothing like me, or you, for that matter. If I looked like a 20 week old fetus, I'd be outcast from society.
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Nah - you wouldn't.

Have you ever seen one? I have. My own. It's a baby - I can post some pics if you like.

A one-month old baby doesn't look anything like you or me either. Your point?
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Nah - you wouldn't.

Have you ever seen one? I have. My own. It's a baby - I can post some pics if you like.

A one-month old baby doesn't look anything like you or me either. Your point?
I have seen an unborn baby before, and it is up to you whether or not you believe it is a baby.
A month old baby is different to a fetus, and we are talking about fetuses here, not born children.
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I was just responding to your post that said a 20-week old foetus looks NOTHING like you or me. Which isn't true. It looks A LOT like you and me. Not exactly like us - but nobody looks exactly like anyone else anyway, unless they are fraternal twins and even that's not exact.
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