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Abortion is legal. The law deems it legal, and therefore it is not murder.

yeah, usually in abortion topics the debate is whether it should be legal or not.
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While I find the PP position silly -- how does one target donations to a particular race? -- this is hardly about "custom-ordering" abortions by race. It's about accepting money. Planned Parenthood will not suddenly start performing more abortions on blacks merely because a small percentage of donors specify that their money be used for that purpose. Particularly given that abortion is *voluntary.*
Since planned parenthood was founded by a person who had the goal of eliminating black people, it's suspicious. Maybe "custom order" isn't the proper term but if someone can specify it goes to a black mother...well that's a custom order on the part of the donor.
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Since planned parenthood was founded by a person who had the goal of eliminating black people
Oh, nonsense. She was a eugenicist, like *many, many* people of her time. But she didn't want to eliminate blacks or anyone else. She wanted to reduce family sizes of all races to break the poverty cycle and avoid overpopulation.

You're parroting the propaganda of black paranoids and antiabortion activists.
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Oh, nonsense. She was a eugenicist, like *many, many* people of her time. But she didn't want to eliminate blacks or anyone else. She wanted to reduce family sizes of all races to break the poverty cycle and avoid overpopulation.

You're parroting the propaganda of black paranoids and antiabortion activists.
She attended klan meetings and wanted to get rid of poor people through eugenics. You do the math. If anybody today says the things she said, they would be labeled a racist. A racist's dream is to do away with whoever they dislike.
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She attended klan meetings
She spoke at a handful of Klan meetings because she wanted to spread her message of birth control to everybody.

Look at the contradiction. You first say she wanted to get rid of blacks, which is why she tried to persuade them to adopt birth control. Then she tells whites the same thing, and it's still evidence that she wanted to get rid of blacks.
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She spoke at a handful of Klan meetings because she wanted to spread her message of birth control to everybody.

Look at the contradiction. You first say she wanted to get rid of blacks, which is why she tried to persuade them to adopt birth control. Then she tells whites the same thing, and it's still evidence that she wanted to get rid of blacks.
Sure, she wanted to get rid of a lot of people. Those white people were the klan. Since nearly all blacks were poor... again you can do the math. You can call abortion birth control but I think it really shows a lack of control.
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She spoke at a handful of Klan meetings because she wanted to spread her message of birth control to everybody.

Look at the contradiction. You first say she wanted to get rid of blacks, which is why she tried to persuade them to adopt birth control. Then she tells whites the same thing, and it's still evidence that she wanted to get rid of blacks.

Tell me why did this person speak at klan meetings, I understand you say she wanted to get her message across to everyone. Why choose klan meetings I am sure there is plenty of other large organisations she could have choosen other than kkk. Did this person not think that even if they were not racist this may make them look as such. Speaking at klan meeting may publicise her birth control theroies, but hardly in a good way. Associate with people and get tarred with the same brush as them.
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yeah, usually in abortion topics the debate is whether it should be legal or not.

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yeah, usually in abortion topics the debate is whether it should be legal or not.
I agree but isnt the answer to so obvious, 1973 to now, how many elections, the majority are not interested, it is the law in both our countries and I for one(one of the majority) agree with that!
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