And if we did force women to gestate against their will, as the pro lifers here would love to see, that would be slavery, and the pro lifers here would see nothing wrong with that.

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Sharon Marie Tate: January 24 1943 - 9 August 1969
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A mother looking after it's 1 month old baby is that also slavery?, should she also have the right to kill her baby?.

A woman who conceives as a result of rape may be seen as being forced to gestate.

Do you think it is murder if that woman terminates an unwanted pregnancy?

Tell me where I said that?

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Check out the laws regarding infanticide in the UK, as a male, my personal view is yes to slavery question. I would recommend the way the Children of Isreal bring up there children on a Kibbutz

I did'nt say you said that I am asking your thought on it.

So let me get this straight you believe a mother looking after her 1 month old baby is a slave to that child. Tell me do you believe then the mother has every right to kill that child?. Tell me how are the children of Israel brought up?, and excuse my ignorance but what is a kibbutz?. I am sorry if this seems like an interrogation, but you learn from asking questions.

A slave to the routine of bringing up that child if she wants to be a "good" parent for is not the mantra routine.

A kibbutz is a farming commune, the children are brought up in a seperate house, so as not to disturb the routine of work, the parent visit the children at set times, google wikipedia for a more complete answer, I would like your opinion.I worked on a kibbutz in my teens.

In the UK she would have the "right" to the defense of the murder of a 1 month old child under our laws governing infantiscide, a jury then decides.

First, I don't want to call it murder or the mother a murderer because murder is a legal term defined by law and our current laws don't consider abortion to be murder. Kill and killer would be appropriate at this point in time.

Your point is valid that gestation is a forced action after rape. But even though it's a tragic thing, as someone who opposes abortion due to human rights, I can't justify killing a human for that reason. Gestation is a very unfair violation of that woman but death is even more unfair to the unborn child. If we were to provide death to the rapist, I can support that. Abortion is somewhat an enabler to rapists. They do not have to deal with the responsibility of that child, which is a responsibility they should face monetarily etc in addition to being held accountable for the crime they committed.

Since abortions due to rape are a very small minority of the abortions carried out, it simply does not justify the open policy of abortion that we currently have.

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No, killing a month old baby is a lot different to killing a fetus. A fetus is not a person under law, whereas a baby is. There is a difference here.

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Sharon Marie Tate: January 24 1943 - 9 August 1969
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