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Old 04-08-2008, 04:23 AM
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Well, THAT would be positive parenting!
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hay some parents just arn't that good at parenting... or there meth addicts..
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I'll post. And I'm not denying it, either - except that last black and white one. A child at 23 weeks gestation does not look like that. That's a clever photo, and a 23-week-old would look similar to that, but it's not actually physically possible in terms of gestational development - it's just not.
Is that so? I got something for ya when I can get home and post pictures of my boy at that age.
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i often hear the feminists saying its there body but how is that the case? its not 'thier' body its the body of another growing inside them like a tumor.. if you let it live theres still no obligation you can drop your children of at any hospital or police station and declare your not fit to care for them..
Yup. Isnt it something like "Anyone can drop a child off within 72 hours of birth, to any responsible person, for any reason without punishment."? Isnt that how it is worded?
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exactly. most are before the tenth week.
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Like in week nine and a few days?

Even still...that's if one believes that the data was recorded honestly (yeah, right!). We already know that more than half of the abortions performed since Roe v. Wade were never documented. Many who once performed abortions but have now repented will testify to that fact. The abortion industry has a long history of deliberate deception. It's wrong either way, but I still believe that the majority of woman probably don't get an abortion until ten weeks or later.
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well, youre making an assumption based on nothing.

no, not like in week nine and a few days. your chart clearly shows over 60% performed at 9 weeks or sooner. only 37.5% occur after 9 weeks. roe v wade was over 30 years ago, it makes more sense to consider the data we have in more recent times. if youre just going to dismiss the data, then you probably wont find any aspect of abortion defensible, no matter what. so, it really makes no sense to make the focus of your thread the 10 week mark.
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Is that so? I got something for ya when I can get home and post pictures of my boy at that age.
Baby Dusty at two weeks three days of age. This was during one of the times where they pulled him off the respirator and had put him on the CPAP, he was doing well on CPAP so they decided to try him on a nasal canula. It was actually the first time he ever ate by himself. My wife is the one feeding him. That would have been twenty three weeks four days gestation, as he was born at twenty one weeks one day gestation.


I have one of him somewhere from the day he was born, I was able to fit my wedding band all the way up his arm to the shoulder.

You can not see my hands in this picture, it was taken the same day, we were doing a form of kangaroo care where skin on skin contact is essential, but as he was still having problems maintaining body temp, had to stay wrapped in a blanket. Believe me, he fit in my hands about the same way as the child fits in the parents hands in the last picture.


And here you have him later that evening, just after they had to intibate him again. Note the size of his head to the size of the hands. Then look at the picture below this one.





Just because my child had problems maintaining body temp, and breathing does not mean all the youngins in the NICU did. There was one little girl that was born at 22 weeks, and was completely off the vent, was not using a nasal canula and was maintaining body temp on her own by the time she was a week old. She was about the same size as the baby in the last picture. Now was that last picture doctored? I do not know, I did not take it. But the pictures of Dusty were not doctored and they look pretty similar to the one that was posted before.
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JMS,

No, when those who actually at one time performed the abortions tell you consistantly that they documented less than half of the abortions that they performed, that's not an assumption based on nothing.

When the abortion industry has a history of lying across the board, it's a safe assumption that the numbers are fudged in more ways than one.

By the time most woman actually question and confirm that they are pregnant, make the decision to have an abortion, and actually have one, it's almost inconceivable that this whole process is finished before ten weeks, especially as the "norm".

The 'reach' is by you, my friend, not me.

And as I said, either way, it's still a life, it's still wrong.
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And as I said, either way, it's still a life, it's still wrong.
thats a position i respect, but i still dont see your point with the 10 weeks thing.
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