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Old 04-08-2008, 10:35 AM
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but i still dont see your point with the 10 weeks thing.
How can you not? It makes perfect sense the way he explained it.
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How can you not? It makes perfect sense the way he explained it.
"And as I said, either way, it's still a life, it's still wrong."

he doesnt care if its fewer than 10 weeks. there is no point; there is nothing more for him to explain on his 10 week focus.
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"religion isnt unique to conservatives."

do you know what the above statement means? there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.
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"And as I said, either way, it's still a life, it's still wrong."

he doesnt care if its fewer than 10 weeks. there is no point; there is nothing more for him to explain on his 10 week focus.
Got ya, I thought you were saying that you did not understand how he was basing his thought that more happen later than are indicated in the reports.
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My point was only to show that it's not a sack of fluid, or a blob of flesh, but a real child.

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My point was only to show that it's not a sack of fluid, or a blob of flesh, but a real child.

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personification, appeal to emotion. yes, i get it.
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JMS, Look at the OP again, the ultra sound of the 10 week old baby. It's an appeal to fact.
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personification, appeal to emotion. yes, i get it.
Here is a question for ya. At what gestational age would you say is too old for an abortion?
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:22 AM
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JMS, Look at the OP again, the ultra sound of the 10 week old baby. It's an appeal to fact.
oh really? what fact would that be?

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Here is a question for ya. At what gestational age would you say is too old for an abortion?
i support the roe v wade position of viability. once the unborn is old enough to live outside of the uterus, an abortion is no longer necessary and thus shouldnt be performed.
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i support the roe v wade position of viability. once the unborn is old enough to live outside of the uterus, an abortion is no longer necessary and thus shouldnt be performed.


Also, how do you define what age that is (I know they said 24 -28 weeks, but come on)? Some children have been born as early as (IIRC) 19 weeks and lived with minimal life support, while others end up dieing when they were born at 30 weeks.

Also, does that mean that at 24 weeks she can just kick the kid out and tell it to do on its own?
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well, that would vary. i dont think it would be possible to have a set age in place as a rule or anything, it would have to be case by case. but, its not a huge issue because most abortions occur within the first trimester anyway, most even before the fetal stage begins, according to statistics ive seen. obviously, that wont convince some, but i dont think it would make a difference for those people either way.

i suppose kicking it out and telling it to do on its own is possible, if thats how you want to put it. adoption is an option, as many prolifers like to tout. i dont think anyone supports reckless abandonment of a newborn in a dumpster or something like this, if thats what youre likening the scenario to.
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do you know what the above statement means? there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.
You are incorrect, per google the phrase mostly unique comes up with over 3 million hits making the use of the phrase not so unique. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

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