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And you'll find a bug zapper is cheaper and more effective.

You misunderstand, nothing new, such a small mind couldn't possibly understand my motive to it's full extent.

I'm not here to change your mind. You'd have to have a mind first.

I'm here to make you suffer. I'm here to implant the thought into your mind that there is someone hateful enough, brutal enough, psychotic enough, to torture, maim, and destroy you.

I want choicers to wakeup with cold sweat dripping down their head in the middle of the night screaming, struggeling to go back to sleep cause they swear that's me standing outside their window.

That's what I want. I couldn't give a monkey's ass what you think.
Well, wow. If that's all you're after!

**clears throat**

"I'm really scared. I'm shaking in my boots. I am suffering so much, I won't be able to sleep tonight"

There. Does that help?
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I wonder if you are a stranger to people disagreeing with you? Sure sounds like it.
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I wonder if you are a stranger to people disagreeing with you? Sure sounds like it.
This is one of those times when it's best to utilise the ignore list in your user control panel. I plan to. It's really a very good feature!
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I'm here to make you suffer. I'm here to implant the thought into your mind that there is someone hateful enough, brutal enough, psychotic enough, to torture, maim, and destroy you.

I want choicers to wakeup with cold sweat dripping down their head in the middle of the night screaming, struggeling to go back to sleep cause they swear that's me standing outside their window.
Those choicers are so brutal and violent. We should slaughter them all, and their children too!

...oh wait.
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Well let me ask you supposedly human level intelligent ghouls...


How do you expect me to treat you like human beings when you're acting like a bunchof little (*)(*)(*)(*)s?


The burden of responsibility lies on you. If you believe we should respect eachother then it is your duty to respect me as a beacon of how someone should act.


You can't do that. By definition, that makes you a hypocrite.


Ofcourse I wasn't expecting you to respect me, because you don't even respect the sanctity of life or your own God-(*)(*)(*)(*) children. So I'd be out of my mind to believe for one second you'd respect me.


But it's even more insane to think you actually think I should respect you. What have you done or said to earn such respect?


Respect is earned, not inherited.
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Okay, I'm officially assuming that you're trolling now. There is no way you could type that with a straight face, and it's not worth repeating.
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How do you expect me to treat you like human beings when you're acting like a bunchof little (*)(*)(*)(*)s?
I don't think we are acting like anything, really. If anything, we are acting a hell of a lot more respectful than you are.

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The burden of responsibility lies on you. If you believe we should respect eachother then it is your duty to respect me as a beacon of how someone should act.
It's hard to have even a shred of respect for you when every second word out of your mouth starts with the letter 'F'.

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Of course I wasn't expecting you to respect me, because you don't even respect the sanctity of life or your own God-(*)(*)(*)(*) children. So I'd be out of my mind to believe for one second you'd respect me.
'Sanctity' of life, huh? So that's why you support the death penalty?
I'd have a lot more respect for you if you quit launching into a tirade everytime someone disagrees with you.

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But it's even more insane to think you actually think I should respect you. What have you done or said to earn such respect?
Read through all my posts in this forum. Have I said anything offensive? No. Have I resorted to name calling and insults to get your attention? No. Now read your own posts in this forum. Notice anything?

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You will never earn respect for anyone if you carry on like a pork chop.
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For those of you who believe life begins at conception, at what point during conception does life begin? Is it when the the sperm first enters the egg? If so, at what depth of penetration does life begin? Is it alive once it gets through the corona radiata, or the zona pellucida?

Is it when their membranes join together? If so, how completely do they have to be joined?

If you think it's when the genetic materials combine, at what point in the combining process is it technically alive? How about when the pronuclei membranes dissolve? When the mitotic spindle forms? When the genetic material is aligned in the metaphase plate? Or when it's seperated and the two new nuclei form?

And keep in mind that all these things are processes, so please specify whether it has to be 100% complete to count as a seperate human being, or if 99.99% is good enough.

If you need reference, Wikipedia is a good place to go.

So, at what point in the conception process does an egg become a person? Or is it just an arbitrary point in the development of a newborn?
Life, as do all things, begins at the beginning... when the egg is fertilized, at that instance, life begins.

It's not long division kids... everything else which is routinely discussed in and around this issue is merely a rationalization, on which the unjustified taking of innocent human life is set.
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Life, as do all things, begins at the beginning... when the egg is fertilized, at that instance, life begins.

It's not long division kids... everything else which is routinely discussed in and around this issue is merely a rationalization, on which the unjustified taking of innocent human life is set.
Sadly, it is long division, you're just rounding. Fertilization is not an instant, it's a process. How far into the egg does the sperm have to be before it's fertilized? and how is it significantly different once it reaches that point inside the egg, opposed to the instant before it reaches that point?
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