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Old 05-03-2008, 05:48 PM
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It may be that the 19yrs old daughter of her austrian father/grandfather who as the austrian police spokesman said is in hospital due to an "illness caused by incest"

What if this means she is pregnant by her grandfather/father, which means if this child is born, he would be the childs father,grandfather and great granfather I think,a sort of tripple whammy.

Would you abort or not
Yes, I would. Children conceived of incest are more likely to suffer ailments and disabilities than other children.
In this case, I would not hesitate to abort - for me, the risk of something going wrong is far too great.

By the way, the nineteen year old in question, Kirstin, is not expected to live.
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Yes, I would. Children conceived of incest are more likely to suffer ailments and disabilities than other children.
Ailments and disabilities are no excuse for murder. In fact, it makes it worse. It's very cowardly.
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Ailments and disabilities are no excuse for murder. In fact, it makes it worse. It's very cowardly.
Julianna Wetmore is disabled - would you abort her if you knew what she would look like?

I'd say it depends on the disability or ailment. I don't think it matter so much about the child, but rather what the parents are capable of.

To better explain my meaning, let me say that if I learned my unborn child was suffering from something like, Down Syndrome, for instance, I would abort.
Not because I have something against DS people, but because I don't think I would be capable of raising a child with special needs - a child who will need extra attention, and will remain dependant on me for a longer period of time than a 'normal' child.
I'd be concerned I couldn't raise that child properly, and cope with their needs. I'd also be concerned I'd neglect my other children.

I don't know if any expectant parant of a child with disability considers this, though. I've thought long and hard about it, and I don't think I could do it. That's just my feelings on it, though - someone else may decide themselves perfectly capable.

Other ailments like heart conditions - would the baby die shortly after birth, or within a year or two of birth? If so, I would abort, because I could not stand to give birth to a child I knew would die. I would have bonded with the child then, which would make it all the more harder knowing that child had only a limited time with me.

Minor ailments and disabilities I would consider, but as I said, it would depend on the disability, and whether I considered myself capable of handling it. Some people simply aren't cut out for it.
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You know the sad thing? If she were an animal, they would have shot her on birth.

That's the sad truth of it all - that can't be done for children born with defects like this - every effort must be made to save them, when their lives may be virtually pointless.
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Julianna Wetmore is disabled - would you abort her if you knew what she would look like?

I'd say it depends on the disability or ailment. I don't think it matter so much about the child, but rather what the parents are capable of.

To better explain my meaning, let me say that if I learned my unborn child was suffering from something like, Down Syndrome, for instance, I would abort.
Not because I have something against DS people, but because I don't think I would be capable of raising a child with special needs - a child who will need extra attention, and will remain dependant on me for a longer period of time than a 'normal' child.
I'd be concerned I couldn't raise that child properly, and cope with their needs. I'd also be concerned I'd neglect my other children.

I don't know if any expectant parant of a child with disability considers this, though. I've thought long and hard about it, and I don't think I could do it. That's just my feelings on it, though - someone else may decide themselves perfectly capable.

Other ailments like heart conditions - would the baby die shortly after birth, or within a year or two of birth? If so, I would abort, because I could not stand to give birth to a child I knew would die. I would have bonded with the child then, which would make it all the more harder knowing that child had only a limited time with me.

Minor ailments and disabilities I would consider, but as I said, it would depend on the disability, and whether I considered myself capable of handling it. Some people simply aren't cut out for it.
I would not abort her. I would, however, abort my example that I gave you before.
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I would not abort her. I would, however, abort my example that I gave you before.
Can you explain what you mean by that?
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You know the sad thing? If she were an animal, they would have shot her on birth.

That's the sad truth of it all - that can't be done for children born with defects like this - every effort must be made to save them, when their lives may be virtually pointless.
That is a sad truth? It is a sad truth that we treat people better than cattle? That is what you think?
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That is a sad truth? It is a sad truth that we treat people better than cattle? That is what you think?
I didn't say that. What I mean is that people such as Julianna are likely going to suffer emotionally in life. An animal is prevented such pain, because we afford them compassion - much like the fact that euthanasia is acceptable for animals, but forbidden for humans.
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