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most likely people will cite the you shall not kill rule. but, in one passage its clear that the born and unborn are not considered equal.
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"religion isnt unique to conservatives."

do you know what the above statement means? there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.
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most likely people will cite the you shall not kill rule. but, in one passage its clear that the born and unborn are not considered equal.
They could not use this passage anyway, as many Christians seem to suport the death penalty, which is hypocritical if one believes the 'Thou Shalt Not Kill' rule.
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heres something i posted in another thread.

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Exodus 21:22-26

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

notice the man is only penalized eye for eye, life for life if the woman is harmed. you might be compelled to argue that this is different because it was accidental, but that doesnt save the careless man from reciprocal harm does it? theres clearly a hierarchy of life illustrated in the above passage -- the unborn are not regarded as born.

this one, ill throw in just because its kind of interesting:

Numbers 5:27-28

And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.

ritual abortion? lol.
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heres something i posted in another thread.
Interesting, although the first paragraph only refers to the man being punished for causing the woman to miscarry, it doesn't say anything about a punishment if the woman were to seek abortion...
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religion doesnt require reason.
I concur, but if I may add to your fine answer, it actually defies it!
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Interesting, although the first paragraph only refers to the man being punished for causing the woman to miscarry, it doesn't say anything about a punishment if the woman were to seek abortion...
unless youre suggesting there may be a sexist double standard, it doesnt really make much difference. if he kills her by accident, he still gets killed in return. with the unborn, however, hes not held to the life for life rule.
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unless youre suggesting there may be a sexist double standard, it doesnt really make much difference. if he kills her by accident, he still gets killed in return. with the unborn, however, hes not held to the life for life rule.
So this is why the Bible does not directly refer to abortion?

Can't wait for the pro lifers to debate this one...
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im sure itll be debated. i mean, its not really held accountable for inaccuracies or anything.
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Hmm...does this mean that Christians have no reason?
In life they do, it seems to be too subjugate, but that is not unique to the christian religion.

It then, as they cannot agree to whose's version God is best,it becomes the race of procreation, and they dont seem to get any enjoyment from the act.

I have no problem with that, as long as the do not take the devine stance of the self appointed guardians of my moral turpitude, a legal consept that in america may bar your entrace, in life to the "kingdom of heaven" that is america, according to sad little biggots like Rick Sanitorium
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So this is why the Bible does not directly refer to abortion?

Can't wait for the pro lifers to debate this one...
Dont forget without them the life of this thread would not exist.

I suppose the three of us could just talk about the pure pleasure of sex if it expired through non contribution, anyone for a threesome
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