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Sex is a desire however, it is not necessary to sustain life.

I still would not live without it! I can live without beer, too. But what kind of life is that? And not to get technical, but while sex may not be necessary to sustain life, it is quite necessary to sustain the human race.
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I still would not live without it! I can live without beer, too. But what kind of life is that? And not to get technical, but while sex may not be necessary to sustain life, it is quite necessary to sustain the human race.
Your argument makes no sense.


Abortion KILLS the human race.

The idea of Abortion, in most cases is that it is a form of birth control.

We are the only species on this Planet that kills off it's own species in such massive
numbers.

Animals are downright Saintly compared to us.

Abortion is an affront to Nature Herself.

Yet you still think it's all just Hunky Dorry?

You don't want to get pregnant?

Use birth control...

but there's no excuse for Abortion

It's Bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

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Abortion KILLS the human race.
No it doesn't. It kills a small number of potential members of said race. Since abortion was invented the number of people around has gone way up, therefore it is clearly not "killing the human race". If everyone stopped having sex, however, the entire race would die out. Those are facts, so I'm not sure what you are disputing.

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We are the only species on this Planet that kills off it's own species in such massive
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There does not seem to be any shortage of people around. So it seems the numbers are not "massive" when compared to the number of people that are born. Further, your statement above is not even accurate.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...912086,00.html

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since 1963, when his book was published, naturalists have identified dozens of species that kill their own, including lions, hippos, bears, wolves, hyenas, herring gulls and more than 15 types of primates other than man.
See? They do it, too.

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Not according to that article they aren't. Seems they can be mean, too.

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All of what?
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No it doesn't. It kills a small number of potential members of said race. Since abortion was invented the number of people around has gone way up, therefore it is clearly not "killing the human race". If everyone stopped having sex, however, the entire race would die out. Those are facts, so I'm not sure what you are disputing.



There does not seem to be any shortage of people around. So it seems the numbers are not "massive" when compared to the number of people that are born. Further, your statement above is not even accurate.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...912086,00.html



See? They do it, too.



Not according to that article they aren't. Seems they can be mean, too.



All of what?
I gave the numbers on here before.

32 million abortions since Roe v. Wade

That's Genocide on anyones scale.

You are approving of Murder no different than the complacent German society in the 30's and 40's approved of Hitler's "Final Solution"

By this Complacency you yourself are CULPABLE...

by not speaking out against this Atrocity known as Abortion.

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No it doesn't. It kills a small number of potential members of said race. Since abortion was invented the number of people around has gone way up, therefore it is clearly not "killing the human race". If everyone stopped having sex, however, the entire race would die out. Those are facts, so I'm not sure what you are disputing.



There does not seem to be any shortage of people around. So it seems the numbers are not "massive" when compared to the number of people that are born. Further, your statement above is not even accurate.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...912086,00.html



See? They do it, too.



Not according to that article they aren't. Seems they can be mean, too.



All of what?
In the instance of human Abortion, the Mother is KILLING the child...you presented an example of competitive Males killing the Females offspring ...

this is entirely DIFFERENT.

This is a disturbed Culture we are living in where-in the Mother is killing her own child...all for the sake of convenience because Sex "feels good" and they can just throw away the consequences in the Bio-Hazard bin.

No other Animal to my knowledge does this.

See it for what it is....
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You are approving of Murder no different than the complacent German society in the 30's and 40's approved of Hitler's "Final Solution"
I have never approved of murder. Still don't.

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By this Complacency you yourself are CULPABLE...
by not speaking out against this Atrocity known as Abortion.
Somehow I think my opinion, either way, isn't going to stop too many abortions. I'm against spouse abuse, but that doesn't seem to be helping much. But if that makes me culpable in your eyes I'm fine with it.
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engaging in sex doesnt mean youre willing to have a child. i have no information to back this, but my guess is over 90% of all sex is for recreation and not reproduction. for many individuals, it is 100% for recreation.

heres a way to come to terms with it. realize that there is no specific moment at which life begins, and that the designation of any point as the beginning of life is simply a matter of opinion. people can put different types or stages of life on different levels, but when the beginning of life is is something i doubt we will ever know.

if youre of christian faith, the bible isnt anti abortion.
So if I think life begins at 21 when you can start drinking, I could justify killing someone who is under 21? If you have an unfertilized egg it is not life, if sperm touches egg then life begins.
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So if I think life begins at 21 when you can start drinking, I could justify killing someone who is under 21? If you have an unfertilized egg it is not life, if sperm touches egg then life begins.
you can try it, youll probably go to jail though. the gametes are alive, theres life before and after conception, theres no starting place where life just magically appears out of thin air.
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I gave the numbers on here before.

32 million abortions since Roe v. Wade

That's Genocide on anyones scale.

You are approving of Murder no different than the complacent German society in the 30's and 40's approved of Hitler's "Final Solution"

By this Complacency you yourself are CULPABLE...

by not speaking out against this Atrocity known as Abortion.
35 million abortions since Roe v Wade? What do you suppose the world would be like with an extra 35 million people? Would the US economy be able to cope with such a huge population?
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Abortion KILLS the human race.

The idea of Abortion, in most cases is that it is a form of birth control.

We are the only species on this Planet that kills off it's own species in such massive
numbers.

Use birth control...

but there's no excuse for Abortion

It's Bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
In most cases, abortion is NOT a form of birth control. Do you really think having an abortion is easier than taking a pill everyday, or using a condom? Seriously, if you think this, you're insane.

There is most certainly an excuse for abortion, and that is: When the woman wants one. Simple as that.
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