This is the reason I am pro life! A pregnancy is the natural consequence of a man and woman having sexual relations. If that act was consensual, then that is the point at which the "choice" was made. the choice was made to take the risk of becoming pregnant and creating another human being.

As I, and others, have stated before in this section, Scott Peterson was convicted and sentenced for killing his unborn son Connor! That makes an unborn child a human being legally! So what makes a woman killing her unborn baby because the pregnancy is inconvenient any less sinister? Isn't that why Scott Peterson killed his baby? He wanted to be a playboy, and the child was in the way and becoming a father was inconvenient for him and interfered with his personal plans. There is no logical difference between these two scenarios except that in the abortion case the child resides within the mother and is nourished by her body until born.

Some say that this is enough to justify granting the right to kill the child.
I don't see the logic in that, given society's obligation to protect the weak and defenseless human beings among us from harm by others who consider them an inconvenience. Allowing abortion in this instance is like allowing the adult child of an elderly parent the right to kill that parent because the parent has become dependent on the child and it cramp's the child's style and budget! Why should something that equates to that scenario be legal?


I am looking for some thinking people to debate this topic from the standpoint of logic and not just throw emotional and logically contradictory statements around. Some I have debated with on the board do just that, and it is tiring!

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I asked a similar question to a pro-choicer in another thread. Her response was that the mother gets to decide if the child is a human being or not. If she wants it, its a human being (and killing it is murder). If she doesnt want it, it's an object (and can be terminated on a whim).

Pro-choice people apparently have no objective means of defining the child as a person...all of their arguments basically treat it as an object owned by the mother.


They dont consider the child a human being. Thats where the real argument is. If the woman were aborting a chair or lamp post, there probably would not be a big debate about it. It all comes down to how we define human beings as people.

If they really dont believe the child is a person, then further debate is pointless since we have no common frame of reference. No argument is going to convince them.

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I agree, but the most common argument in support of abortion is that the fetus is not a human being from a legal standpoint. Well Connor Peterson was! And he was murdered without ever being born. So I would like to see an abortion supporter defend legal abortion logically given that tidbit of factual information.

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That is not what they have told me. From what they have told me, they still would not consider abortion wrong even if it were against the law.


He was only murdered if his mother wanted him. That is what they will tell you.

And if you try to cite precedent, they will tell you they think the precedent is wrong. I've been on that merry-go-round several times.

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its the mothers body. wanna spare the baby? take it out out -- problem solved.

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Completely illogical! The baby is a separate human being, the baby IS NOT part of the mother's body! It has its own independent DNA!

So try again!

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Which is what we plan to do. When she gives birth to it, it comes out of her body. Problem solved.

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if its really a separate human being, then separating it from the mothers body shouldnt be too hard.

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nah, she can solve the problem much sooner.

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If she can solve it without killing the baby, then everyone is happy. Good luck with that.

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