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Default Roe (of Roe vs. Wade) attempt to overturn abortion DENIED!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/14/roe.v.wade/index.html

This is the woman that first sued for the right to have an abortion in the late 1960s, winning that right of choice for American woman in Roe v. Wade, and after being confused by the spiritual counseling of anti-abortionists, brought a suit last year to try to outlaw all abortions due to "emotional harm".

If this woman felt bad about having an abortion, she should get spiritual counseling - but to have that personal spiritual counseling be misused to bring suit to try to bar women in American from having a choice in medical decisions concerning their own bodies, well that was just plain dispicable.
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/14/roe.v.wade/index.html

This is the woman that first sued for the right to have an abortion in the late 1960s, winning that right of choice for American woman in Roe v. Wade, and after being confused by the spiritual counseling of anti-abortionists, brought a suit last year to try to outlaw all abortions due to "emotional harm".

If this woman felt bad about having an abortion, she should get spiritual counseling - but to have that personal spiritual counseling be misused to bring suit to try to bar women in American from having a choice in medical decisions concerning their own bodies, well that was just plain dispicable.


If she’s suddenly “found G-d” and doesn’t like abortion, she needn’t have one. End of story. That gives her no right to force her new beliefs on the rest of the women in this country. She’s a colossal hypocrite.
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If this woman felt bad about having an abortion, she should get spiritual counseling - but to have that personal spiritual counseling be misused to bring suit to try to bar women in American from having a choice in medical decisions concerning their own bodies, well that was just plain despicable.
You didn't even read your own link?
She never had an abortion. I am not for making abortion illegal. However, I find it amusing that this woman's story and opinion on abortion meant so much to the pro-choice when she agreed with them. Her story and her opinion are just as relevant now as it was then.
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I am not pro-life.. i am not pro-choice... i refuse to comment on the issue for a few reasons..

1. I am male
2. Neither side is completely right with their arguments.. or even more right than the opposing side...
3. scientific ambiguity over the point in which that cluster of cells becomes a human being.. is it conception? is it natural birth? is it the first, second, or third trimester...

However, i am slowly leaning towards pro-life due to the fact that number 3 is becoming increasingly LESS ambiguous.. the recent ultrasounds that show the fetus smiling and making hand gestures as well as the broken bones that occur during an abortion are starting to persuade me....
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I know what you mean Sinanju. I was firmly on the fence for a long time. Now, I am against abortion, but (for practical reasons) not for making it illegal. My reasons are on the abortion forum, and they don't spring from my belief in God.
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Partial Birth abortion is a murderous act. And the ONLY reason the woman and her doctor aren't charged with murder is because they have this legal loophole that enables them to kill the baby on the way down the birth canal.....before it has a chance to take it's first breath.....so they can say it was born dead. Well....DUH, it was born dead: YOU KILLED IT!
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I am an Atheist and I am firmly pro-life as well. A woman has the right to control her own body. The fetus is not her own body.
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Partial Birth abortion is a murderous act. And the ONLY reason the woman and her doctor aren't charged with murder is because they have this legal loophole that enables them to kill the baby on the way down the birth canal.....before it has a chance to take it's first breath.....so they can say it was born dead. Well....DUH, it was born dead: YOU KILLED IT!
..procedure you keep mis-representing...

There is a separate forum to discuss this issue at greater length...
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Partial Birth abortion is a murderous act. And the ONLY reason the woman and her doctor aren't charged with murder is because they have this legal loophole that enables them to kill the baby on the way down the birth canal.....before it has a chance to take it's first breath.....so they can say it was born dead. Well....DUH, it was born dead: YOU KILLED IT!
Roe vs Wade is not about partial birth abortions - that's a seperate issue.

And although I believe in a womens right to choose and that partial birth abortions should be limited to medical reasons for having one, how do you feel about those women who discover that at 7 months the baby is poisoning the womens system and will kill her if not aborted? Is that murder?(Happened to a friend of mine 2 years ago)
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I am an Atheist and I am firmly pro-life as well. A woman has the right to control her own body. The fetus is not her own body.
Really? Then what is the umbilical chord attached to?
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