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Freedom of Choice Act
The Freedom of Choice Act is a bill that is currently in the United States Congress. This bill seeks to codify Roe Vs. Wade, and it will remove any and all restrictions that state or local governments have put on abortions before viability...
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question / comment - abortion is legal, why do we need to make it easier to do?
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Guru
I hope Obama signs it.
Guru
Why do we need to make it harder to do? If a woman knows she wants an abortion, and is determined to get one, she will jump any number of hurdles to get one, so why place those hurdles in her path?Originally Posted by clarky
We could learn a lot from crayons:
some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors....but
they all exist very nicely in the same box.
Guru
You are looking at how progressive liberalism over time, demolishes all boundaries and installs the culture of death.
It started with Roe v Wade, which granted limited abortions.
Now they are coming back for full fledged death rooms.
Next will be euthanasia.
Then, old people will be lucky to walk out of a hospital alive.
This is the eugenics movement in disguise. It never really went away, it just transfered itself to other areas and called itself something different.
Social engineering folks.
Guru
Well murder is against the law in all 50 states. Maybe we ought to make it easier for people to kill one another, b/c afterall, if someone wants to kill another human being, we shouldnt put hurdles in their way.
That is stopping progress.
Observer
there are clearly other issues at work here. abortion is a surgery. a 16-yr old girl who wants to get an abortion should have to tell her parents. they should know that their daughter is having surgery. many young girls have no idea the physical and mental ramifications of having an abortion. telling them about them is a good thing to do. partial-birth abortion just blows my mind, but i won't get into that right now. all of these laws that are on the books are good things. they should not be taken away just for the sake of making it easier to kill a baby.
Guru
None of these laws that are on the books have the desired effect. True, many young girls have no idea of the ramifications of having an abortion, and those same girls have no idea the ramifications of giving birth.
1. Waiting periods. Waiting periods are supposed to give women time to rethink their decisions. Women have already thought about their decisions by the time they get to an abortion clinic. Waiting periods cause them to have to take more time from work, possibly travel long distances twice instead of once. It's plain to see that waiting periods are simply to make abortion more difficult to get, not make sure women have considered their options.
2. Mandatory ultrasounds. Mandatory ultrasounds are another insult to women. Supposedly to make sure women are informed about what they are abortion, as if women didn't know what they are doing, they make abortion more expensive. It's plain to see the intention is simply to make abortion more difficult to get.
3. Parental consent or notification. Teens in supportive families tell their parents about a pregnancy without being compelled by law, teens in non-supportive families shouldn't be compelled to. It's plain to see that these laws are intended to stop teens from getting abortions, not to make sure they are supported by family. There is no parental consent or notification required of teens intending to give birth, a far more dangerous decision.
4. Required information. Some states require doctors to give patients certain information, mostly false, in order to scare abortion patients away from that decision. Examples: Abortion is connected to breast cancer, abortion will cause long-lasting emotional trauma. No such information is required for women planning to give birth, although it is much more likely to lead to emotional issues.
Last edited by OKgrannie; 11-17-2008 at 05:15 PM.
We could learn a lot from crayons:
some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors....but
they all exist very nicely in the same box.
Analyst
Sweeeet. It's legal but we need but one justice's vote to overturn Roe vs Wade. It's a very flimsy decision.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
-Dr. Carl Sagan
Observer
really? come on now. it seems to me the family is somewhat likely to notice that their daughter is 9 months pregnant. they are not going to notice at 1 month, and should be notified that their daughter is having surgery.
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Guru
Should they have the right to prevent their daughter from having an abortion, and force her to give birth against her will?
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