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There is a big difference between a picture of a dead baby and a live one. Pro-choicers are able to look at the picture more because it isn't human to them, they just see an object, not a dead baby.
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There is a big difference between a picture of a dead baby and a live one. Pro-choicers are able to look at the picture more because it isn't human to them, they just see an object, not a dead baby.
so since a fetus (which they want to save by no abortions) is too inhuman and repulsive to look at, pro-lifers can sleep easy knowing that the "repulsive" and "obscene" thing can be continued to be argued for saving it....just so long as they don't have too look at it!

p.s - if anything it should be a pro-life image....if you are so repulsed by it...how can you argue that it's 'human'
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Pro-choicers are able to look at the picture more because it isn't human to them, they just see an object, not a dead baby.
I think most "pro-choicers" are repulsed as well. It's not a matter of pro-life vs. pro-choice. It's a matter of taste.
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"p.s - if anything it should be a pro-life image....if you are so repulsed by it...how can you argue that it's 'human'"

Are you saying that it's not human? I am only repulsed by the fact that a mother would choose to do that to her child.
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"p.s - if anything it should be a pro-life image....if you are so repulsed by it...how can you argue that it's 'human'"

Are you saying that it's not human? I am only repulsed by the fact that a mother would choose to do that to her child.
1/ its not human, in the same way sperm isn't human.

2/so if a scientist took a pic of a fetus on a slap, that would be obsene?
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"p.s - if anything it should be a pro-life image....if you are so repulsed by it...how can you argue that it's 'human'"

Are you saying that it's not human? I am only repulsed by the fact that a mother would choose to do that to her child.
1/ its not human, in the same way sperm isn't human.

2/so if a scientist took a pic of a fetus on a slap, that would be obsene?
Is a dead adult repulsive to look at? Why yes it is! What does that have to do with anything you are talking about. By far, I would rather look at a live fetus than a dead one. I would rather look at a live baby than a dead one. I would rather look at a live toddler than a dead one. I would rather look at a live teenager than a dead one. I would rather look at an old person than a dead one. So should we not save anyone because we don't want to look at dead ones. You don't make sense!
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"p.s - if anything it should be a pro-life image....if you are so repulsed by it...how can you argue that it's 'human'"

Are you saying that it's not human? I am only repulsed by the fact that a mother would choose to do that to her child.
1/ its not human, in the same way sperm isn't human.

2/so if a scientist took a pic of a fetus on a slap, that would be obsene?
Is a dead adult repulsive to look at? Why yes it is! What does that have to do with anything you are talking about. By far, I would rather look at a live fetus than a dead one. I would rather look at a live baby than a dead one. I would rather look at a live toddler than a dead one. I would rather look at a live teenager than a dead one. I would rather look at an old person than a dead one. So should we not save anyone because we don't want to look at dead ones. You don't make sense!
they look like they're sleeping hows that repulsive? - and they have been born a fetus hasn't so your anology is irrelevant.

would you be repulsed if you saw a dead egg?
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I guess you think it is ok to kill children from newborn on up because afterall they aren't real people yet? Spare me! The only difference between a fetus and a newborn is that one is still in the womb and the other isn't.
The difference between a sperm and a fetus is that the sperm has not fertilized an egg. It's function is not complete until it does so. Just like an egg that has not been fertilized by a sperm has not completed it's function. Once they have completed their function and the egg has been fertilized by the sperm, they have now merged together to create a new life. Once life has begun, no one has the right to kill it.
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I guess you think it is ok to kill children from newborn on up because afterall they aren't real people yet? Spare me! The only difference between a fetus and a newborn is that one is still in the womb and the other isn't.
The difference between a sperm and a fetus is that the sperm has not fertilized an egg. It's function is not complete until it does so. Just like an egg that has not been fertilized by a sperm has not completed it's function. Once they have completed their function and the egg has been fertilized by the sperm, they have now merged together to create a new life. Once life has begun, no one has the right to kill it.
the question was would you be repulsed if you saw a dead fertilized egg.
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I guess you think it is ok to kill children from newborn on up because afterall they aren't real people yet? Spare me! The only difference between a fetus and a newborn is that one is still in the womb and the other isn't.
The difference between a sperm and a fetus is that the sperm has not fertilized an egg. It's function is not complete until it does so. Just like an egg that has not been fertilized by a sperm has not completed it's function. Once they have completed their function and the egg has been fertilized by the sperm, they have now merged together to create a new life. Once life has begun, no one has the right to kill it.
the question was would you be repulsed if you saw a dead fertilized egg.
Repulsed…Yes, if was dead secondary to an elective abortion done as a means of birth control. Saddened...if it was dead secondary to a miscarriage. It is still a life, whether it’s one week gestation or 36 weeks gestation.

These questions you pose are tremendously shallow. So do you base your argument for abortion purely on the physical appearance of the fetus at a particular stage of development? Or, on how much the fetus resembles a grown human? Just because a fetus in early development doesn’t look like a human (with arms, legs, hair, or whatever) doesn’t mean it’s anything less than a human life.
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