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i get a grant.....because im a dyslexic student doing the course. heh.

I haven't displayed being unable to understand any of the scientific (*cough) parts of your argument. Lets face it, anything you have said, could easily be found/understood by your average retard...without having to go to any lengths. You babble about sperm being potential for life...but so is a guy and a girl passing in the street....potential = NOTHING, so stop babbling about it and chromosome numbers in your posts. we are asking about your opinions, we never asked to to explain retard simple science to us.
Do you believe in God?

So you get the affirmative action degree?...a handout whether you are actually able to do the work at course level or not?....great...


...and I am still waiting for you to demonstrate in any fashion that unborns are not living human beings...or are you just ok with killing human beings for no better reason than convenience.


Yes, I believe in God..but I don't require religious rhetoric to tear down the strawman arguments that the pro choice crowd have to erect in order to support their specious position..

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"affirmative action degree" - no i don't, in in the UK not the US. All it does is pay for my laptop and voice recorder/spelling stuff for me. I got in on grades, i only get the grant AFTER i have been accepted, so don't try to belittle my achivements.

Really! how can you be a biologist...and still beleive in God.

Fact is the fetus relies on mother to survive, if seperated, it will die. in the same way that a toe might.

I see intelligent design throughout the evolution of life on earth...for example, there were no less than 3 completely independent and identical transitions from RNA based life to DNA based life...the probability of such a thing happening 3 times, independently of each other, and in exactly the same way are outrageous...

The fact is that the unborn is in its natural environment and if you remove it from that environment, it will die...if we remove you from your natural environment and set you on the surface of the moon, chances are that you will die as well...are you less human, or less of an individual because you depend on your natural environment to survive? Can you think of a reason that you should be put to death because you are dependent on something besides yourself for your survival?

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the moon enviroment isn't created by people. fetus is the same as a toe.

The natural environment of the uterus is also not created by people...and for that matter, the natural environment that you require for life is not man made either....and a toe is simply part of a complete body...You could remove a toe from an unborn and the toe woud die, but not the unborn..if you remove cells from an unborn at a very early stage, then the comparison may be the removal of the upper torso rather than a toe. For one who claims to have a grasp of biology, you make some very juvenile arguments...

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The natural environment of the uterus is also not created by people...and for that matter, the natural environment that you require for life is not man made either....and a toe is simply part of a complete body...You could remove a toe from an unborn and the toe woud die, but not the unborn..if you remove cells from an unborn at a very early stage, then the comparison may be the removal of the upper torso rather than a toe. For one who claims to have a grasp of biology, you make some very juvenile arguments...

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im not arguing that it is just part of the women. ther is differences, because it is being made to be born. but it's still being prodced by the females body. as far as im concerned when it's in her body it's just a bunch of cells. until in independant from the woman, it can have independant personal, rights for the individual

it's not a normal part of a womans body, but while its there its still part of the womans body.

Actually mouse, it is not being produced by her body...she produces new skin for herself, she produces hair, she produces new blood cells for herself, but she does not produce a single cell for the unborn child...she only provides nourishment and a hospitibal environment.

And you can say it is just a bunch of cells until the cows come home, but it doesn't change a thing...you are just a bunch of cells as well, and yet you have a basic right to life...

and if the unborn were not welcome in the woman's body, why then would she have an entire system within her body dedicated soley to feeding, protecting, and nurturing it until it is ready to live in a different environment.

The more you argue, the less actual biology you seem to know..

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the fact that it doesn't have it's own systems to survive, kinda shows how much the woman owns it.

if it's not seperate from the woman, how vcna it have seperate rights?

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