I look at it from a non religious viewpoint, merely a medical one. And that is the viewpoint the country needs to take. There is a point where higher thought starts to take place. Not all pregnacies succeed, and that is not death if a mother miscarriages. Nor is it one if that is by choice. I do think that a medical line needs to be drawn but it starts later than fertilization.

It is worth noting that the pro-life group SPUC here in Scotland were exposed by a former activist as using pictures of still born babies and claiming them to be aborted babies. I know the whistleblower personally.

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If they don't want a kid, dont get pregnant...sure its not impossible, but IMO if you are dumb enough to not use birth control, condoms, pulling out etc.. then you don't deserve a free pass at the expense of a child's life...put the kid up for adoption.

Anyway, this could go on in circles forever, and since in general I agree with you on more points than I disagree with you I'm going to drop it.

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Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV)

I would agree here.

The abortion issue is the one area where I totally part ways with Democrats. Abortion on demand (b/c YOU screwed up) is just wrong. Rape, incest, life/health (legit health concerns) are another matter.

As someone with a disability, I fear that with advances in genetics, people may choose to abort simply b/c the child could be born with a disability, and no other reason. That disturbs me greatly.

That said, I don't vote on one issue, so George Bush is still not likely to get my vote.

I am 100% pro-life in any circumstance, except for rape. Quite possibly the worst thing a woman could experience. How do the protestors outside clinics no what a woman is going for. They don't know if a woman was raped. Its a 9 month reminder of what happened. With a lifetime of nightmares. If it didn't take a million years to adopt a child in this country, maybe my opinion would change. But I don't think so.

The central question is whether or not the unborn child/fetus/choose your favourite term here____ can be considerred a human person or not. That is the central question... if the fetus (I'll go with that term from now on for ease of use) is a human person, then an abortion is the equivalent of murder. Legalized murder, perhaps, but murder nonetheless. That is basic logic that all can accept with, or with out, religious beliefs.

If I remember correctly, death (the end of life) is medically determined to be at the point of the cessation of brain activity. Therefore, I think that it logically follows that the beginning of life would be medically determined to be at the point of the beginning of brain activity. Going by this reckoning, most abortions are murder, as brain activity as been found to be in fetus' as young as 5 weeks old in the womb. Therefore, any abortions performed past this point of 5 weeks should be illegal, as they are logically the equivalent of murder.

To argue that "women should have the right to choose" here is the same as saying that "women should be allowed to murder people". It's a baseless argument, in my opinion.

I see nothing wrong with showing pictures of aborted fetus' to people old enough to not be overly traumatized by them.

"Peskers" Is that a euphemism? Would you care to clarify?


Actually to the existent that government is legitimate, its only function is to restrict what people do with their bodies. Totalitarian regimes often like to extend this to restriction on peoples minds, but that is of course not legitimate.