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Old 03-18-2005, 05:12 AM
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so waht your telling me, is that you STILL haven't found a book that refers to a fertilised egg as a species...only 'from' a certain species....ok thanks! ...keep trying
A fertilized egg can not be a species you dolt...you are not a species...you are a member of a species...you are called a human....adult I suppose...that means that you are an adult member of species h. sapiens...just as an unborn human is an unborn member of species h. sapiens...you claimed that you were a smart person...if you are going to make the claim...then act the part...or do you actually believe that an individual is "a" species rather than a member of a species?
human is a species. hence child/adult are humans, hence why books refer to these as belonging to a species. i.e a picture of a human is refered to as a homo-sapien, it's being talked about as a species.

stop trying to play with words to squirm out of the fact that a f. egg will not be referred to as a homo-sapien....im guessing you STILL haven't had any luck with that?

hence why in this had out i got yesturday which had a diagram on "mammalian placental structure" says "embryo of a cat" it does not call the embryo 'a cat'
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hence why in this had out i got yesturday which had a diagram on "mammalian placental structure" says "embryo of a cat" it does not call the embryo 'a cat'
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hence why in this had out i got yesturday which had a diagram on "mammalian placental structure" says "embryo of a cat" it does not call the embryo 'a cat'
I suppose you would also question what the definition of "is" is. An embryo of a cat is the same as a cat embryo which is a bonified member of species Felis catus.

To prove this point, why don't you go and break a few bald eagle eggs, then turn yourself in to the nearest game and fish officer. You will find that you won't be imprisoned for molesting an embryo of a Haliaeetus leucocephalus, you will go to prison for molesting Haliaeetus leucocephalus. While you are in front of the judge, try your little word game out with him or her, you might get an extra 5 years for being a dolt.

If it weren't so sad, the lengths that you pro choicers will go to in order to try to win an argument that you simply can't win would be amusing. Not a cat, "of" a cat. What a loser.
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Seems that so many of you flip-head liberals out there think that it is murder if I kill a cow because I want a hamburger for dinner. Yet those same libs don't think that killing their own unborn baby is murder. Question: Is it murder if I kill an unborn baby chicken because I want eggs for breakfast? And, by the way, if I decide I want a mushroom burger for lunch, does the mushroom scream out in pain when I pull it up out of the ground?
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Can you post some weblinks with pickled fetus photos?
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Pictures of aborted fetuses are circulated by those seeking to emotionalize an argument they have already lost.


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Pro-aborts claim this - they oppose pre-abortion counseling sessions where such pictures are shown, or nowadays an actual sonogram of the fetus. They probably believe that such "emotional" tactics are used to manipulate unsophisticated young women or girls. On the other hand, in other threads in this section, I've heard people criticize pre-counseling abortion, because it "infantilizes" girls or women seeking an abortion.

So which is it:

1. girls women are infantile and need to be protected from "emotional" tactics by showing them fetus photos, or

2. women/girls are sophisticated, know what they are doing, and don't need to infantilized by pre-abortion counseling?

Pick one.
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If we are animals, then like other animals we are omnivores, but not cannibals. Also name me another animal that rips a baby out of the womb for convienence.

Sex only feels good because it is the act of reproducing which is a natural drive that not only exists within humans but also in animals. It is natural instinct for us to procreate, it just has become such a "hobby" that people have rewritten in their mind what the act of sex is for.
I had a cat as a child, that eat its kittens.

Your second para is rather Pavlovian.

Dont gays enjoy sex?
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Pro-aborts claim this - they oppose pre-abortion counseling sessions where such pictures are shown, or nowadays an actual sonogram of the fetus. They probably believe that such "emotional" tactics are used to manipulate unsophisticated young women or girls. On the other hand, in other threads in this section, I've heard people criticize pre-counseling abortion, because it "infantilizes" girls or women seeking an abortion.

So which is it:

1. girls women are infantile and need to be protected from "emotional" tactics by showing them fetus photos, or

2. women/girls are sophisticated, know what they are doing, and don't need to infantilized by pre-abortion counseling?

Pick one.
As a "pro-abort" I am happy with counseling and the use of these pics, as long as they also show pics of the ripped arses of unwanted children who were placed in "catholic care homes." <<<EDITED FOR GRAPHIC PROFANITY. USE YOUR HEAD, DON'T POST STUFF LIKE THAT.>>>

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Have you seen the pictures, what do you think of them? Angry, sad, disgusted?
I have seen 'photos' and many of them are fakes.

I am sure pro lifers would be unwilling to admit that a good many of their 'photos' are actually photos of miscarried fetuses, even stillborn babies. These people take photos of a stillborn and pass it off as a miscarriage. Of course they will not admit to it, but anyone with a brain could look at those photos and tell instantly they are not real.
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Have you seen the pictures, what do you think of them? Angry, sad, disgusted?
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Have you seen the pictures, what do you think of them? Angry, sad, disgusted?
I admit when I see genuine abortion photos, I feel nothing. What I see is not a person, and that is my personal belief. I am not affected by them at all. If I come off hard and cold, so be it. That's just me.

I feel angry, and disgusted, as well as sickened, when I come across photos that are almost certainly photos of stillbirths or miscarriages. There is no need for people to take these photos of someones dead child, and pretend they are abortions, because they are not. It horrifys me to think that someones dead child could be used as a weapon for the pro life lobby, and I wonder if the parents of that dead child only knew that their child had been exploited.

I also wonder if pro lifers would see anything wrong with using stillborns or miscarriges to further their agenda.
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