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04-01-2004, 12:58 PM
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To DBG
If I was that woman I would have called 911 and had you arrested for harassing me. You tried to and maybe you succeeded in intimidating her. You tried to take away her right to choose what to teach her child.
I say this in the nicest way. Your actions were hypocritical. Who are you to decide her choice of taking her child to something she believes in is abuse. I have taken my children to several peaceful demonstrations for my pro-life group and I consider myself a very good parent. 
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04-02-2004, 07:58 PM
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responed befor my grandma is 99% dead please
unfortunately DBG didn't have any augment to present, so um, i still think my grandma is 100% alive until shes dead, but who know i want to know if she can be part dead before shes really dead, cuz if shes part dead i could just start digging a hole right now and maybe bring her 99% there.
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04-03-2004, 12:01 AM
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Whoa dude - put down the pipe before posting!
Anyone wanna finger out what froggie is yammering about?
Theresa (is that spelled right honey - wouldn't want to set you off - - again!) Gosh I'm thrilled that you have taken your child to peaceful demos. Did you shove POSTER-SIZE BLOODY FULL-COLOR PHOTOS OF RIPPED FETUS PIECES IN HIS FACE TOO?  If you really are a mother, you should have a clue as to the damage that can cause a small boy. If you have NO CLUE as to the effects then I hope you aren't a mother.
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04-06-2004, 01:21 PM
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Since you called me honey but you still can't read DBG-A
Just let me tell ya something. If you had your way my 3 children would have been aborted. Because you seem to think you can make judgments on whoever you like, have at it. Your opinions mean absolutely nothing to me. You are insulting and rude and I am sorry for you that you weren't raised any better.
And by the way my 3 children are just fine. My oldest is married to a marine and made me a Grandmother this past August. My second child will graduate with honors from high school this year and go on to college. And the youngest gets A's and B's in school while he works part time and plays in a rock band. So as you can see my children are doing just fine and are well balanced even though I subjected them to something that YOU might find offensive. Frankly I find abortion offensive, and anybody who thinks its OK to destroy life because it isn't convenient for them to be pregnant at the moment is offensive to me too! My children have learned to respect life in all its forms. BTW Sorry if you are offended. Have a nice day!
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04-08-2004, 12:06 PM
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oooooo
Choosing when and why and how a person should die, is a position of judgement humanity has indulged in for ever...
Well, everyone knows that there is more to life than physical material. People have emotions and thoughts. And how can we define when a fetus' emotions or thoughts become a reality? We can't, we can only judge the physical side of it. This leaves out an important part of life when we decide to kill that living growing fetus. It IS living and growing. Surely the fact that it is growing is sign enough that it is alive? That is how i learnt to define life when i was younger anyway... that a rock is not alive because it doesn't grow, but a plant is because it does. AND its not the fact that it might be murder if you kill it, its the fact that you just stopped growth! you stopped a human being from years and years of pleasure, excitment, happiness, fear, and the joy of maturing, choosing, making mistakes, hurting and learning. Oh the joy of learning!! What is important to understand, is that there are some people who cant breath without help, cant see and cant hear, cannot do anything but live. And yet they manage to experience things, that otherwise would not have been open to them. Its that contentment of life! that pleasure of the muse! and the knowledge of love! all things that a human can experience. We cannot judge whether or not that little bundle of multiplying cells is alive. there are too many things that we dont know. But what we do know is that it is growing, and will continue to grow and learn and become more complex and change and grow some more, untill death knocks on the door. the fact that only one person is looking after it in its first months and nurturing it for the next few years and then teaching it for the rest doesn't mean that little human is less human, it makes the mother more so. And no one knows what that child will be. So assuming what he/she will do, experience or when it will die, is pointless. We just dont know. We can only do what every person does with a baby. teach it and help it to understand, hope that it will make the right choices, be there when they make mistakes, pick them up when they fall, nurture it, but ultimatley prepare them to be themselves.
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04-08-2004, 12:19 PM
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back on topic...
oh and i forgot, i dont see a problem with the photos being published in magazines and books, where intelligent minds are likely to see them. What i find to my distaste, is the violence of plastering photos where every one can see them, and where tender minds can be abused.,
Im not ignorant to the fact that children will be vulnerable to hurt at somepoint in their lives, but doing it on purpose and without sensitivity to a childs welfare is ...well...wrong. The violence of a protest is best kept out of a childs life untill the mother feels the child is old enough to make his/her own opinions about it, and wont be caught up in the furore with such ease by emotional pulls etc. I generally think the photos are good for expressing the reality of abortion. But i think it will only be considered with thought by mature people. and therefore should be kept out of the sight of those to whom it may be potentially damaging.
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04-12-2004, 06:45 AM
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happiness??...
Christians aren't abusive to those that have an abortion. We have counselling for those who are choosing AND those who have had one.
Also, ya know, religion doens't always come into it. Most people disagree with it personally, not because of some religious belief. Everyone has personal opinions as to whether or not something is right or wrong. On the topic of reliancy, babies can survive out of the womb 12 weeks premature. They can take their first breath before nine months... And babies with downs syndrome can be killed up to birth... Why is that? People with downs are perfectly capable of happiness. If the bably is killed it's just selfishness on the part of the parents which is not an excuse for abortion.
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04-16-2004, 08:52 AM
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Abortion
Abortion is a major issue which i disagree with, unless the mother is in danger of death or the child is going to be in serious pain and unable to have a life... i disagree as i believe it is like commiting murder, and if the mother never wanted a child she should have used a condom e.t.c , i understand sometimes the women is raped and scared to have the baby but instead of killing it she could at least have the baby and have it adopted or put into foster. However i do also agree it is up to the women and yes she should have the choice as it is her body but we should try to give her guidance and make her realise there are other paths [/b]
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05-03-2004, 11:17 PM
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Selfish
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I hope that you are blessed enough to have a child in the future. I think this will change your p.o.v.
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