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Changing somebody's post when quoting them. Can a mod clarify this for me?
A while back, I was issued an infraction for quoting somebody and changing what they wrote. It's commonly called "fixed that for you". I have noticed that certain people have been doing this frequently, and despite being reported, their posts are never deleted, and it appears that they are not issued warnings because they continue doing it.
Here is just one example. Is this allowed on the site, or not? I'd like to know once and for all.
Thank you.
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That is one of my biggest pet peeves...pure flaming.
I don't mind if someone "snips" my comment to reply to a specific point...but when they purposely alter the content, I'd just as soon split their skull.
I think it should be a permaban offense after 1 warning.
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No it is not allowed, and that post was deleted, Brewskier. If you see anymore, let me know.
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I change people's words often when I quote them. Mostly for simplicity, or to correct spelling errors. I never try to change the meaning of what they typed. But if it is a long sentence, I will sometimes cut out a phrase just to address only a certain point.
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What if we're just translating for them? For instance:
Which is in a foreign language (against forum rules) becomes:Originally Posted by Brewskier
“Social Security has nothing to do with the deficit. Social Security is totally funded by the payroll tax levied on employers and employees. If you reduce the outgo of Social Security, that money would not go into the General Fund to reduce the deficit, that would go into the Social Security Trust Fund. So Social Security has nothing to do with balancing the budget or lowering the deficit.” –Ronald Reagan
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C'mon Todd, what should you do if you come upon a rule violation?
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I was recently corrected by my friend old timer that i met at smarties bar for misspelling the word geyser as geiser, there was no bad intentions there but some of my opponents in debate have corrected me in inflammatory ways so those type of posts should be reported to the moderator on duty. Hope this helps the OPs dilemma
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It should depend on the case. For example if it is something obvious and meant as a joke like guy A says "Bush was the worst president in all of history" and guy B quotes him and says fixed that for you "Obama was the the worst president in all of history". That is fairly innocuous and I don't see any real prolem with that. If however people are quoting people and deliberately changing the quote in order to make the other person look like they lied or contradicted themselves during a serious debate than I would consider that a serious breach. I don't read what I wrote when people quote me I just assume that they hit the "Reply with Quote" button like I do. I agree with the other poster that it should be a 1 time warning, second time is a month long ban and a third time is a permanent ban.
There is really no reason at all for changing someones post with the exception of when people are responding to long posts with multiple paragraphs and you are responding to each section individually. That I don't see as an issue.
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Granny says dey ever try dat on her...
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That is an invitation to mess things up even if its not a rules violation. Once in an editorial the editor changed the word impotent to important ! He thought it was bad grammar or that he knew what I meant or he just did not like me (I send many many letters to our hick newspaper that are unpopular with the old money etc in this town). Anyway, that one (malicious?) change perverted the entire letters point and it did not win any accolades from the mayors office. Similar (malicious?) things have happened in this forum. There's too much chance for abuse allowing someone to change a direct quote. So I would urge everyone to use quote tags when quoting and never change a direct quote.
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btw the posts in the link given seemed to be deleted because of member insults etc. Where did someone change anothers quote?
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