http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6355681.stm

This is the 6 party talks the Democrats and far left types wanted Bush to scrap.

Probably fail in the end do to North Korea playing games BUT...yeah...this is a good sized bite of reality for the Bush basher types.

I heard the US is promising a million tons of oil worth $300 million. This is basically the same agreement that former Carter came to during the Clinton Administration. Bush decided giving North Korea oil in exchange for closing down its nuclear program was crazy, so he stopped the program. But in the end, North Korea cheated on its end of the bargain as well, and quickly developed a nuclear bomb as soon as Bush stopped paying.

In other words, the old "oil for no nukes" agreement didn't work more than a decade ago and it won't work again. Diplomatic day-dreaming.

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The North Koreans are very good at this little game.

The sad part is, we keep falling for it.

N. Korea agrees to nuclear disarmament
By AUDRA ANG, Associated Press Writer
23 minutes ago



BEIJING - North Korea agreed Tuesday after arduous talks to shut down its main nuclear reactor and eventually dismantle its atomic weapons program, just four months after the communist state shocked the world by testing a nuclear bomb. But North Korean state media said the nuclear agreement requires only a "temporary suspension" of its nuclear facilities.

The deal marks the first concrete plan for disarmament in more than three years of six-nation negotiations. The plan also could potentially herald a new era of cooperation in the region with the North's longtime foes — the United States and Japan — also agreeing to discuss normalizing relations.

"Obviously we have a long way to go, but we're very pleased with this agreement," U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill told reporters. "It's a very solid step forward."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070213/...as_nuclear_142

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Clintonite after Clintonite. My question is, "So when does this so-called CHANGE start?"

Since you seem to be happy about this, what is your response to this little nugget from the article?

"But already before its adoption, the deal drew strong criticism from John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N., who urged President Bush to reject it.

"I am very disturbed by this deal," Bolton told CNN. "It sends exactly the wrong signal to would-be proliferators around the world: 'If we hold out long enough, wear down the State Department negotiators, eventually you get rewarded,' in this case with massive shipments of heavy fuel oil for doing only partially what needs to be done."

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It sounds like the same deal Clinton worked out that the neocons call appeasement.

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roger waters

So, North Korea is going to go for a deal they got without having nukes, now that they have nukes? You need to grow up girl.

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roger waters

Personally I think the deal stinks. I don't see why we offer them anything after they broke the deal Clinton made and, as a bonus, the deal doesn't address the 7 or so nukes they already have. Big deal. The only thing I like about the agreement is that it was done using the multi-lateral talks the US wanted and not giving into NK demands. Then we ruin it by completely dropping our shorts on the other end of the deal.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

The "axis of evil" talk didn't work so now they're trying what was once called "appeasment" by the same neocons who are giving this deal the thumbs up.

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Nuclear Blackmail - 1
Bush - 0

I thought Kim was the bad guy...so then why is it ok to promise a million tons of oil if he shuts down his nuclear program?

party on neocons!

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