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Hmm, a sinking dollar might be good for American exports. Oh wait, American...exports...*gets dizzy*.

More expensive imports means more expensive...everything.

How many products are made in America besides crack?...*hears crickets chirping*....i'll wait....
Big expensive high technology goods. Did you know the American state of Washington has a trade surplus with China. Boeing & Microsoft are based there, shall I run over it again?

The way to us getting over this trade 'difficulty' is by moving our manufacturing to areas we are competitive in. If we champion the 'Free Market' then why don't we do this?

Oh that's right, it would lose votes for the politicians. Spineless pushovers.........
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Hmm, a sinking dollar might be good for American exports. Oh wait, American...exports...*gets dizzy*.

More expensive imports means more expensive...everything.

How many products are made in America besides crack?...*hears crickets chirping*....i'll wait....
Cotton. Even this industry is seeing major competition worldwide.
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It's just on par for globalism. Our standard of living and theirs must meet in the middle somewhere eventually. It's an ugly process that most Americans don't want to experience.
No, that doesn't have to happen, if the US unleashes it's markets, gets rid of "affirmative action", and brings in top quality immigrants. Instead of participating in a zero sum game, we could BE the game.
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The way to us getting over this trade 'difficulty' is by moving our manufacturing to areas we are competitive in. If we champion the 'Free Market' then why don't we do this?
True, we're seeing foreign companies do this in the US all the time to reduce tariff and shipping costs.
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No, that doesn't have to happen, if the US unleashes it's markets, gets rid of "affirmative action", and brings in top quality immigrants. Instead of participating in a zero sum game, we could BE the game.
I see where you're going with this, open the strangle hold on the unskilled job market. I'm not sure a recession is the best time to do this though.
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If you don't like domestic jobs being shipped overseas, this is a good thing.
Yes, combat those Chinese factories with Mexicans - open the borders! We'll outproduce them yet.
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Hmm, a sinking dollar might be good for American exports. Oh wait, American...exports...*gets dizzy*.

More expensive imports means more expensive...everything.

How many products are made in America besides crack?...*hears crickets chirping*....i'll wait....
Harleys, and lots and lot of weapons.
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...670255,00.html

Permit me a small bit of "I told you so."

This is being framed as a bad thing: China's cost of living is rising rapidly, which means it's more costly to produce stuff there. So things here are going to get more expensive here, because so much of the production supporting our domestic consumption has been outsourced to China.

But this is *exactly* what I've been saying will happen for years. And it's a good thing.

Amid all the hand-wringing about "exporting jobs" -- with the concurrent suggestion that we should use high tariffs or something to stop it and keep those jobs here at home -- I pointed out that, absent trade barriers, the only way to avoid having to compete with low-priced labor is to do one of two things: outcompete them with productivity and quality, or raise their standard of living so they're no longer so low-priced.

This is the latter happening. So while it will make things more expensive, it also makes it less attractive to export jobs to China. Which is exactly what would happen if we went the protectionist route -- except this way doesn't involve government intervention.

Prices have been artificially low for the last 10 years -- with the price paid in exported jobs. Now the prices are coming back into balance, and the cost in jobs should lessen.
Agreed...this is one of the benefits of a falling dollar that I tried to explain to skeptics on this forum. India already experienced this a year ago.
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That's what trade tends to do. Over time it equalizes those engaged in it.
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I think this might act as a drawback to the Chinese market. People bought goods from China maily because of the rates. But with this, i guess there are many who might backout.
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