Thread: End of Freedom of Speech or a blow for Journalistic integrity?

Little background for our US cousins - there is no such thing as a "Bill of rights" in Australia

So this case involving Andrew "I'm a little twonk" Bolt has been an interesting test of the "right to free speech" versus racist slander and defamation (Okay so I don't like the man - he is a known climate denialist whore who would not know a fact if it bit him on the bum)

[Julian Disney made the comments after the Federal Court ruled News Limited columnist Andrew Bolt and his employer, the Herald Sun newspaper, had breached the Racial Discrimination Act when it published two articles challenging people's identification as Aboriginal.
Bolt says it is a "terrible day for free speech".
The plaintiffs in the case welcomed the ruling and said Aboriginal people could once again walk tall thanks to the judgment.
Federal Court Justice Mordecai Bromberg said that in the absence of the publication of an apology, he would make an order for the publication of a corrective notice.
In the final paragraph of his ruling, Justice Bromberg said maintaining free speech was crucial.
"It is important that nothing in the orders I make should suggest that it is unlawful for a publication to deal with racial identification, including by challenging the genuineness of the identification of a group of people," he said.

Audio: Listen to Alison Caldwell's report (PM)

"I have not found Mr Bolt and the Herald and Weekly Times to have contravened the act simply because the newspaper articles dealt with subject matter of that kind.

"I have found the contravention of the Racial Discrimination Act because of the manner in which that subject matter was dealt with."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-2...t-case/3026502

Originally Posted by Bowerbird

Little background for our US cousins - there is no such thing as a "Bill of rights" in Australia

So this case involving Andrew "I'm a little twonk" Bolt has been an interesting test of the "right to free speech" versus racist slander and defamation (Okay so I don't like the man - he is a known climate denialist whore who would not know a fact if it bit him on the bum)



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-2...t-case/3026502

The end of free speech.

I'm a [man-made]climate change denier...the whole thing's a big huge croc...and he knows plenty of facts about it.

Alan Jones once wrote:

http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=...101&Itemid=134

The easiest way to silence some poor unsuspecting citizen from saying anything is by calling him a racist.

Mind you it's never racist when dreadful things are said about Anglo-Saxons, but that's another story.

We read at the weekend that we're supposed to be the most racist State in Australia.

There's going to be a conference starting in Sydney on Tuesday called Rights, Reconciliation, Respect and Responsibility.

And this report will be released there, the first results of a so-called study, Challenging Racism - the Anti-Racism Research Project.

And we're told that high rates of migration meant that on average New South Wales was the least tolerant of all the States and Territories.

So you object to migration and you're a racist.

No matter that you might be worried about where they're going to live or where they're going to work, or are they going to claim welfare, or will they adequately assimilate, or where's the infrastructure to support them - all legitimate concerns.

No, protest against immigration and you must be racist.

If you say that Australia is weakened by ethnic groups sticking to their old ways, then you're racist.

So when people were surveyed for this report they said that Australia was weakened by ethnic groups sticking to their old ways.

And the reality is Australia is so weakened.

The report found that a high rate of migration concentrated in Sydney meant a higher rate of encounters with different cultures.

Well, most Australians would say that's no bad thing.

But when they find that these people don't respect Australia, its customs, its flag, its way of life, when they choose not to work or fail to assimilate, then it's not racist to say what the hell are you doing here.

Australians legitimately feel if you come to Australia and you make that choice, you should work hard to fit in with what you find.

etc

etc

etc

That's not racism.

That's called defending your own patch.

And if Australians aren't entitled to do that, we may as well just put up the white flag.

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Yes, it's obviously time to put up the white flag.

The Left-Greens and all their disciples have won.

So now it's time to just let them have their way with everything involving other-than-White races, religions other than Christianity, people-smuggling/asylum-seekers, massive immigration, public housing and welfare income for all asylum-seekers/refugees and immigrants, multiculturalism, etc etc etc.

The Aboriginal nation will now just have to fight for its own rights and liberties, and lobby the Left-Greens govt and their disciples for help.

Obviously the majority of Australians today are Left-Greens disciples.

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The Racial Discrimination Act of course is a two way street...and any more of this-ilk should see a class action lawsuit started against the speaker/s...


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1111112425808

"Those atheists, people of the book (Christians and Jews), where will they end up? In Surfers Paradise? On the Gold Coast?

"Where will they end up? In hell. And not part-time. For eternity. They are the worst in God's creation.

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People in Britain should also be launching class action lawsuits:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cher-hate.html

All homosexuals should be stoned to death, says Muslim preacher of hate

All homosexuals should face stoning to death, a Muslim preacher of hate declared yesterday.

Originally Posted by bambu

Alan Jones once wrote:

http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=...101&Itemid=134

The easiest way to silence some poor unsuspecting citizen from saying anything is by calling him a racist.

Mind you it's never racist when dreadful things are said about Anglo-Saxons, but that's another story.

We read at the weekend that we're supposed to be the most racist State in Australia.

There's going to be a conference starting in Sydney on Tuesday called Rights, Reconciliation, Respect and Responsibility.

And this report will be released there, the first results of a so-called study, Challenging Racism - the Anti-Racism Research Project.

And we're told that high rates of migration meant that on average New South Wales was the least tolerant of all the States and Territories.

So you object to migration and you're a racist.

No matter that you might be worried about where they're going to live or where they're going to work, or are they going to claim welfare, or will they adequately assimilate, or where's the infrastructure to support them - all legitimate concerns.

No, protest against immigration and you must be racist.

If you say that Australia is weakened by ethnic groups sticking to their old ways, then you're racist.

So when people were surveyed for this report they said that Australia was weakened by ethnic groups sticking to their old ways.

And the reality is Australia is so weakened.

The report found that a high rate of migration concentrated in Sydney meant a higher rate of encounters with different cultures.

Well, most Australians would say that's no bad thing.

But when they find that these people don't respect Australia, its customs, its flag, its way of life, when they choose not to work or fail to assimilate, then it's not racist to say what the hell are you doing here.

Australians legitimately feel if you come to Australia and you make that choice, you should work hard to fit in with what you find.

etc

etc

etc

That's not racism.

That's called defending your own patch.

And if Australians aren't entitled to do that, we may as well just put up the white flag.

@@@@@

Yes, it's obviously time to put up the white flag.

The Left-Greens and all their disciples have won.

So now it's time to just let them have their way with everything involving other-than-White races, religions other than Christianity, people-smuggling/asylum-seekers, massive immigration, public housing and welfare income for all asylum-seekers/refugees and immigrants, multiculturalism, etc etc etc.

The Aboriginal nation will now just have to fight for its own rights and liberties, and lobby the Left-Greens govt and their disciples for help.

Obviously the majority of Australians today are Left-Greens disciples.

______________________________ ______________________________ __
****************************** **************************

The Racial Discrimination Act of course is a two way street...and any more of this-ilk should see a class action lawsuit started against the speaker/s...


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1111112425808

"Those atheists, people of the book (Christians and Jews), where will they end up? In Surfers Paradise? On the Gold Coast?

"Where will they end up? In hell. And not part-time. For eternity. They are the worst in God's creation.

______________________________ _________________________
****************************** ********************

People in Britain should also be launching class action lawsuits:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cher-hate.html

All homosexuals should be stoned to death, says Muslim preacher of hate

All homosexuals should face stoning to death, a Muslim preacher of hate declared yesterday.

You are quoting from ALAN JONES to defend racism?? That is like quoting from Mien Kampf to defend anti-Semitism

And "playing the victim" card as a "poor 'lil white person" is just plain pathetic and the usual excuse that is trotted out by the Alan Jones of this world.

They do not know the truth of the plight of the indigenous people and they do not WANT to know it

Originally Posted by Bowerbird

Little background for our US cousins - there is no such thing as a "Bill of rights" in Australia

So this case involving Andrew "I'm a little twonk" Bolt has been an interesting test of the "right to free speech" versus racist slander and defamation (Okay so I don't like the man - he is a known climate denialist whore who would not know a fact if it bit him on the bum)

LOL, our US friends will have no trouble determining you are a partisan hack though.

What a thoughtless way to start a thread.

Originally Posted by Oxyboy

LOL, our US friends will have no trouble determining you are a partisan hack though.

What a thoughtless way to start a thread.

At least I was honest in my dislike of Bolt

I put my bias up front and then let everyone else make their own decisions - as adults do

Originally Posted by Bowerbird

At least I was honest in my dislike of Bolt

I put my bias up front and then let everyone else make their own decisions - as adults do

What decisions does your bias let you make?

Informed ones? Or biased ones?

Originally Posted by Bowerbird

And "playing the victim" card as a "poor 'lil white person" is just plain pathetic and the usual excuse that is trotted out by the Alan Jones of this world.

They do not know the truth of the plight of the indigenous people and they do not WANT to know it

You just proved the point being made about reverse racism being real and seen as acceptable by many. A persons race has nothing to do with their financial or mental health. Statistics and other types of quantative measures represent only so much. There is plenty of stupid, poor white people for various reasons, just like there is plenty of stupid, poor black people for various reasons - sure they have different reasons unique to being indigenous, but they are not all caused by the 'white person'.

Bolty got caught telling lies - now he is being a big sook about it and whinging about "freedom of speech"!!!

You have no freedom to defame Bolty. Suck it up big guy - you were caught, and the Court has found you to be guilty of racial discrimination.

Bad bad Bolty.

While I can see why a society would pass such laws, to an American who has absolute freedom of speech, no matter how hateful, vile or evil the message behind it, I find it rather terrifying that a man can stand in front of a judge and be punished by the Law for the mere words that emanated from his mouth or from his hand in other parts of the world.

That is just absolutely scary to an American. There would be riots over here if the Government ever tried that.