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    Some amazing info here. Now that bugaplugs has convinced me that Julia didn`t lie about the carbon tax, I have to ponder why 99.99999999999% of Australians think she did? They must all be on drugs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiefree2ride View Post
    Some amazing info here. Now that bugaplugs has convinced me that Julia didn`t lie about the carbon tax, I have to ponder why 99.99999999999% of Australians think she did? They must all be on drugs.
    It is called the Goebbel's effect - tell a big enough lie often enough and it will be believed
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie
    The internet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhoea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind- boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it.
    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not adding it to a fruit salad

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiefree2ride View Post
    Some amazing info here. Now that bugaplugs has convinced me that Julia didn`t lie about the carbon tax, I have to ponder why 99.99999999999% of Australians think she did? They must all be on drugs.
    I didn't say Julia didn`t lie about the carbon tax.

    I said that it was Labor policy to introduce a price on carbon - and that is exactly what they have done. As promised. In accordance with the wishes of the majority of Australians that voted for candidates who supported the introduction of a carbon pricing system.

    Why Julia tried to play silly word games on the eve of the election is anyones guess. But it lost her a lot of votes to the Greens - from people who wanted a tax and not a market based system.


    What has been delivered is a market-based system with a 3 year fixed price period. It is NOT the tax that I would have preferred to see. But - it is far better than a Great Big Tax to pay polluters, as is the Liberal Party policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugalugs View Post
    I didn't say Julia didn`t lie about the carbon tax.

    I said that it was Labor policy to introduce a price on carbon - and that is exactly what they have done. As promised. In accordance with the wishes of the majority of Australians that voted for candidates who supported the introduction of a carbon pricing system.

    Why Julia tried to play silly word games on the eve of the election is anyones guess. But it lost her a lot of votes to the Greens - from people who wanted a tax and not a market based system.


    What has been delivered is a market-based system with a 3 year fixed price period. It is NOT the tax that I would have preferred to see. But - it is far better than a Great Big Tax to pay polluters, as is the Liberal Party policy.

    Ahhhhhh, welllll, that makes everything alright then. COUGH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiefree2ride View Post
    Ahhhhhh, welllll, that makes everything alright then. COUGH!
    Yes it does, doesn't it. Despite what Alan Jones tells you.


    A majority of Australians voted for a price on carbon.
    That was Labor policy
    That is what has been legislated


    What is your problem?

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    bugs wrote:
    A majority of Australians voted for a price on carbon.
    Will you stop writing bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!

    Most Australians that voted for the labor party at the last election did so because of this,

    "There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead."
    Julia Gillard
    "No it's not possible that we're bringing in the carbon tax, that is a hysterically inaccurate claim being made by the Coalition."
    Wayne Swan
    There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than the carbon tax. dumbanddumber

    "The cost, paid by big polluters, will be passed through to the prices of the goods you buy." Julia Gillard

    "Australian households will ultimately bear the full cost of the carbon price." Ross Garnaut

    "A carbon tax does not guarantee emissions reductions" Former Labor Climate Change Minister Penny Wong

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumbanddumber View Post
    Will you stop writing bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!

    Most Australians that voted for the labor party at the last election did so because of this,
    Somebody who doesn't even understand the conversation is in no position of accusing others of writhing bull(*)(*)(*)(*)

    We have all seen your contribution here:
    Quote Originally Posted by dumbanddumber View Post
    Why didn't she do a cap and trade, because that would have made the companies cough up instead of the people.



    I suggest you pull your head in and try to actually understand what is being discussed. You may not have got up to it yet in your class at school - but you should still try to learn.


    Now - FYI - at the last election, the swings on primary votes were:

    Labor -5.4%
    Liberal +0.8%
    Greens +4.0%
    http://www.abc.net.au/elections/fede...de/parties.htm

    The vast majority of the primary votes lost to Labor went to the Greens.

    People who wanted a carbon tax deserted Labor.
    That is why Labor does not control the Parliament.
    That is why the Greens were able to insist on a 3 year fixed price period on the carbon pricing scheme.

    The Carbon Pricing Scheme that was ALWAYS Labor policy.

    You really need to stop listening to Alan Jones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumbanddumber View Post
    Will you stop writing bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!

    Most Australians that voted for the labor party at the last election did so because of this,
    Why do you say this?

    Because Alan Jones told you it was true?
    You should not always trust Alan Jones.
    Especially if you meet him in a public toilet.


    Why don't you think that most Australians that voted for the labor party at the last election did so because of this, which was the headline in the Australian right before the election:
    Julia Gillard: My carbon price promise

    JULIA Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term as part of a bold series of reforms that include school funding, education and health.


    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/features/fede...#ixzz1lVUF4cIr

    Do you understand what the above headline says?

    Why do you continue to deny it exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugalugs View Post
    Yes it does, doesn't it. Despite what Alan Jones tells you.

    A majority of Australians voted for a price on carbon.
    That was Labor policy
    That is what has been legislated


    What is your problem?
    Do you ever read any of your own posts?

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    1041 posts about nothing. Hes like an australian version of Jerry seinfeld.
    Die dulci fruere

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