Thread: Complain to your sitting member about the CARBON TAX SCAM

Do something about the carbon tax scam, complain to your sitting member.

Remember that most people that voted for the labor party voted for them because the promised not to introduce a carbon tax.

"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead."
Julia Gillard

"No it's not possible that we're bringing in the carbon tax, that is a hysterically inaccurate claim being made by the Coalition."
Wayne Swan

taken from here
http://www.hotheads.com.au/carbon%20tax%20scam.htm

UN IPCC OFFICIAL ADMITS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS A SCAM

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is the United Nations international body that assesses the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant for the understanding of the risk of human-induced climate change.

Its reports have been the entire basis on which various Emissions Trading Schemes (ETS) and carbon taxes have been imposed to allegedly stop the planet from heating up.

In recent times, IPCC reports on global warming have been exposed as being falsified and in fact hard data has shown that the planet has actually slightly cooled in the past decade, despite an increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide.

So the "Global Warming" term was abandoned in favour of "Climate Change", allowing the IPCC to hedge its bets as to which way global temperatures were going to move.

The carbon tax imposed by the Gillard Labor government is based on the IPCC data that is so flaky, however many people have wondered about the real reason that this tax was imposed, even though it exposed Gillard as a monumental liar.

Well, the truth about the so-called global warming, climate change, carbon dioxide increase and all the rest of the IPCC data has been exposed as a gigantic scam by none other than a top IPCC official who is right on the inside of this organisation.

In November 2010, German economist and IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer stated that climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection. He admitted that the world climate summit in

Cancun in December 2010 was actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources were to be negotiated. Edenhofer brazenly told Germany's NZZ Online that, "We redistribute de-facto the world's wealth by climate policy."

If you needed any more evidence that the entire theory of man-made global warming was a scheme to redistribute wealth, the admission from one of the top IPCC people that instigated it is the absolute proof that it is a monstrous scam.

Edenhofer stated, "But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this.

One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."

Edenhofer was co-chair of the IPCC's Working Group III and was a lead author of the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report released in 2007 which controversially concluded, "Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations."

As such, Edenhofer is a huge player in advancing this theory, and he has now made it quite clear that this is actually an international economic scheme designed to redistribute wealth.

As Australia's carbon tax is based on this amazing con, it therefore has absolutely no grounds to be imposed.

Every Australian should now use Edenhofer's admission to complain to every sitting Member of Parliament and state to them that if the IPCC climate change findings are a scam for wealth redistribution, then the carbon tax based on those findings must also be a scam.

There is no way that the government can possibly deny it, when the IPCC's own official admits that it is a con-job.

Read more here
http://www.hotheads.com.au/carbon%20tax%20scam.htm

Our politicians are all liars and fraudsters, here Penny Wong is against the carbon tax, what has changed between now and then?

We is she in favour of it now!

Yeah our automobile industry is headed over seas, not to mention our steel industry and our coal industry is going to be destroyed.

Thank you Penny and Julia and Wayne lets not forget that communist Bob brown either.

"A carbon tax does not guarantee emissions reductions"
Former Labor Climate Change Minister Penny Wong

"The introduction of a carbon price ahead of effective international action can lead to perverse incentives for such industries to relocate or source production offshore. There is no point in imposing a carbon price domestically which results in emissions and production transferring internationally for no environmental gain."
Australian Climate Change Minister Penny Wong 6 feb 2008

WHY THE PUSH FOR A CARBON TAX

The real reason for this iniquitous carbon tax is that in a world where bankers create and manipulate the money supply and the slow collapse of economic growth in the industrialised world, a new form of trading had to be found.

Globalisation, privatisation and the worldwide finance disasters that required massive bailouts of the bankers who caused them meant that industrialised nations are now essentially bankrupt.

The creation of money without tangible assets to back it has finally wreaked havoc on nations such as the USA that influence the world economy and creditor nations are slowly reducing their intake of debt.

So as the world moves from production to consumption, the emphasis has shifted to the creation of a new economy based on taxing that consumption, firstly by means of creating false pretexts such as man-caused global warming or the very open-ended man-caused climate change, then finding a way to raise money by imposing taxes to combat this bogus problem.

Journalist Richard K Moore has written a fascinating and very detailed analysis of this situation called Prognosis 2012:

Towards a New World Social Order that explains why governments around the world have pushed for emissions trading schemes and carbon taxes, even though they all know that such taxes will not reduce emissions.

This article is available on the Downloads page.

The truth is that it would be counterproductive for emissions that are taxed to be reduced or eliminated, simply because that would reduce or eliminate the revenue. Of course if polluters actually do reduce emissions, the tax rate will rise to compensate for the reduced revenue,

but if polluters manage to actually reduce their emissions to a marked degree, governments that rely on the rakeoff from carbon taxes and emission trading will collapse. So there is absolutely no incentive for anybody to

reduce emissions and the whole scam relies on taxpayers literally paying hefty levies on all goods to ostensibly reduce emissions, but those emissions won't be reduced at all, not as long as governments need them to be there to be taxed.

Read more here
http://www.hotheads.com.au/carbon%20tax%20scam.htm

sorry mate, I am with you on the subject of Iran und internet zensorship, but not on the carbon tax.
To put a price on carbon is one way to tackle the problem, the other is to reduce our footprint. We need both,
cheers m2catter

Originally Posted by m2catter

sorry mate, I am with you on the subject of Iran und internet zensorship, but not on the carbon tax.
To put a price on carbon is one way to tackle the problem, the other is to reduce our footprint. We need both,
cheers m2catter

Hey Cats

I'm all for cleaning up our pollution, the carbon tax will do no such thing and so say about 80% of Australians.

Have you read the above, the people who actually scared us into AGW are now saying that climate change has nothing to do with environmental issues.

Its all about money money money it always has been.

Dude its a scam to fleece billions of dollars from the Australian tax payer.

Julia Wayne and Bob will be remembered for a long time but for all the wrong reasons imo.

mate,
we live on a hill, and many people stop their cars in front of our joint to enjoy the views, and guess what?
Around 80% never stop their motors, they keep them idling, for 5min, or 10 or even 20min. So maybe those 80% are poorly educated, or cannot give a rats ass, or just don't care about our enviroment.
Make energy more expensive, and one day even those idiots will learn....
To tackle our global problems, it will require combined efforts, and carbon tax will help to achieve that goal, imho.
Cheers

Originally Posted by m2catter

mate,
we live on a hill, and many people stop their cars in front of our joint to enjoy the views, and guess what?
Around 80% never stop their motors, they keep them idling, for 5min, or 10 or even 20min. So maybe those 80% are poorly educated, or cannot give a rats ass, or just don't care about our enviroment.
Make energy more expensive, and one day even those idiots will learn....
To tackle our global problems, it will require combined efforts, and carbon tax will help to achieve that goal, imho.
Cheers

I sympathise with you about the environment, look at the yarra river in melbourne its filthy there is no way you or i or anyone would swim in it.

Dont get me wrong just because i'm against the carbon tax it doesn't mean i'm against cleaning up our environment.

The fact is the catbon tax will effect everything and this $5 per week nonsense our liar of a prime minister is spouting is just down right bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

It will efftect our energy consumption, our food our clothes everything you need and buy, much more than $5 per week.

And why do we have to be tied to the european ETS why cant we just fix it up right here at home the good old fashion way.

Imo the carbon tax the biggest SCAM we have ever been told as time will tell, and it will do nothing to clean up our pollution that is why i'm against it.

GILLARD IGNORES THE OBVIOUS SOLUTION

In April 2011, Prime Minister Julia Gillard stated that half the greenhouse gases and pollution in Australia was being emitted by just 50 companies.

So if that were the case, the most obvious way to eradicate half the harmful emissions would be to deal with those 50 companies and legislate to force them to switch from coal-fired energy to gas-fired energy and also monitor their emissions and fine them if they did not ensure that they complied.

This solution would see a huge and very real reduction in all pollution, not just the theoretical 5% reduction in carbon dioxide that Gillard claims will occur with her $11 billion per year tax.

Even if only a 25% reduction in all greenhouse gases was achieved by such a measure, this would be a real achievement, not the bogus reduction of CO2 that Gillard is claiming.

Actually forcing the biggest polluters to stop polluting would ensure a real reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, but of course it would not raise revenue for the government and its quasi-communist ideology of wealth redistribution, which is the whole idea of the CO2 tax.

The problem with a CO2 tax is that it would not stop polluters from emitting CO2, it would merely impose a cost on them for doing so and this cost would merely be passed onto the end-users of their products after the government had reaped the revenue from this tax.

This is why the Gillard Labor government would not countenance any real measures to reduce greenhouse gas pollution, simply because such measures would actually achieve their goals without ripping off the taxpayers and filling government coffers. In fact, with a CO2 tax, the government would have no incentive in reducing CO2 because that would result in a reduction in revenue.

It is the same principle as speed cameras, where a government would lose a fortune if every motorist stopped speeding and the revenue from fines dried up.

taken from here
http://www.hotheads.com.au/carbon%20tax%20scam.htm

"Australian households will ultimately bear the full cost of the carbon price."
Ross Garnaut, Labor Government Appointee and Author of the Climate Change Review

"The cost, paid by big polluters, will be passed through to the prices of the goods you buy."

So there is Prime Minister Julia Gillard blatantly admitting on the record that the so-called big polluters won't pay a cent of this CO2 tax, but it will be passed straight onto anybody who buys anything whatsoever, because there is not a single item or service that will not be affected by this tax.

So every time that Gillard states that the big polluters will pay the tax, she is lying.

This serial liar of a Prime Minister has known all along that not one of the alleged polluters will pay anything at all and that's why this tax is such an obvious scam.

If the polluters are not penalised for polluting, then they have no incentive to stop doing this. But of course we all know that CO is not a pollutant anyway, so this merely compounds the massive con-job that Gillard and her regime is trying to perpetrate onto the Australian community.

Why do the Labor Government and the Greens insist that only big business will pay the carbon tax, when their own Climate Change advisor Ross Garnaut openly states that households will ultimately bear the full cost of the tax and the Prime Minister Julia Gillard admits to this too? Does this not prove that the Labor Government and Greens are constantly lying to the Australian people?

taken from here
http://www.hotheads.com.au/carbon%20tax%20scam.htm

Members from both parties have changed their minds on the issue. Remember how Tony Abbott said the best way to stop climate change was with a simple tax.

I am quite happy how my local member voted on the legislation.

Originally Posted by parker

Members from both parties have changed their minds on the issue. Remember how Tony Abbott said the best way to stop climate change was with a simple tax.

I am quite happy how my local member voted on the legislation.

Its really refreshing to see such a young person take an interest in the future of ones country.

Originally Posted by dumbanddumber

I sympathise with you about the environment, look at the yarra river in melbourne its filthy there is no way you or i or anyone would swim in it.

Dont get me wrong just because i'm against the carbon tax it doesn't mean i'm against cleaning up our environment.

The fact is the catbon tax will effect everything and this $5 per week nonsense our liar of a prime minister is spouting is just down right bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

It will efftect our energy consumption, our food our clothes everything you need and buy, much more than $5 per week.

And why do we have to be tied to the european ETS why cant we just fix it up right here at home the good old fashion way.

Imo the carbon tax the biggest SCAM we have ever been told as time will tell, and it will do nothing to clean up our pollution that is why i'm against it.

The old fashioned way?
The ones behind the power are Woolworth, Coles, Bunnings, the mining industry and so on. Gillard, Abbotts, all puppets.
We could lead the world in renewables, not technology wise, but due to the simply fact that the sun is coming out our arse and that we are politically a stable continent.
But you will never see that happen. Howard declined any progress on this matter, and all Labor is doing pinponging between our coal industry and the next fix in trying to get more votes. Without the Greens, Labor wouldn't do a thing....
I won't vote for Gillard again, nor will I vote for Abbotts. I am sick that Australia is left behind in many ways.
And you might be right, maybe even clothing becomes more expensive, but tell me a single other way for people to change their attitude if not through their wallets?
Cheers

Originally Posted by m2catter

The old fashioned way?
The ones behind the power are Woolworth, Coles, Bunnings, the mining industry and so on. Gillard, Abbotts, all puppets.
We could lead the world in renewables, not technology wise, but due to the simply fact that the sun is coming out our arse and that we are politically a stable continent.
But you will never see that happen. Howard declined any progress on this matter, and all Labor is doing pinponging between our coal industry and the next fix in trying to get more votes. Without the Greens, Labor wouldn't do a thing....
I won't vote for Gillard again, nor will I vote for Abbotts. I am sick that Australia is left behind in many ways.
And you might be right, maybe even clothing becomes more expensive, but tell me a single other way for people to change their attitude if not through their wallets?
Cheers

fair enough,

Just one last thing, if carbon credit farming is going to be part of the derivatives market on the stock exchange, do you still believe in the carbon tax?

Look here
http://www.politicalforum.com/politi...m-century.html