Thread: Rudd or Gillard, your prediction as of Thursday, 23 Feb. 2012

So, in a couple of days we all know more....
But until then take a pick: Who, in your opinion, will take the lead?
We all know what the Australian public want, but whom will the Labor's Caucus go for?

Rudd or Gillard?

Although I like to see Rudd, I think they go for Gillard............

Be a few nervous MP's out there thinking about another term....

Might be closer than people think.

IF Rudd does contest and loses, i wonder if a few might quit in protets?

Rudd is my guess and wish.

The caucus surely cannot go so strongly against the public opinion.

As for me, both Rudd and Abbot are peculiar among politicians in that they are human, genuine and well, just blokes. Sure they are the inverse of each other but that's good, together they are a unit. I believe that only Rudd could challenge Abbot.

Neither are extremely bright when faced with the media, but they are both pretty straight up.

I firmly believe we will be significantly worse off under Abbot.

I said Gillard in another thread but I have changed my mind on the issue.

Every caucus member who holds a marginal seat would be mental to support Gillard considering the polls. I think that more and more people are into the realm where their seats are in danger, if they value their seat, they should realise that Rudd is their candidate.

We also have to look at the fact that Rudd already had frontbench supporters in the party such as Kim Carr and Robert McClelland and that positions could be offered to those with waivering loyalty such as Chris Bowen.

The simple fact is that Kevin Rudd is the only person who has any chance of leading the ALP to a victory at the election and caucus members who really care about the party know that the party is best served being in government and Kevin Rudd is the only candidate that can keep the ALP in government in the long term.

As much as I'd like to see Rudd return and never hear Gillard's nasal twang ever again, I fear she'll probably win this round. But in doing so, she only digs the ALP into an even bigger hole. A huge majority of traditional Labor voters will never accept her, or the way she came to power, or the manner in which she's conducted herself since. And now her supporters are indulging in a mass orgy of self-destruction as they rush to bad-mouth Rudd. In doing so they're all too often confirming their disloyalty to him while he was PM, they're aligning themselves with the power brokers behind the coup (who represent everything that's wrong with the ALP), and they're insulting a man who has more than twice the public support that Gillard has. One has to wonder at what point they think it would be a good idea to act in accordance with what their electors clearly want.

Gillard digs a deeper hole for herself every time she opens her mouth. Wednesday, I think it was, she threw a tantrum at a journo for asking if she was in on the Rudd back stab. on Thursday, she spewed a pile of invective about what a hopeless PM Rudd was. Can`t have it both ways Julia.

Juliar is demonstrating her weak leadership by even allowing Kruddy Clown to challenge her. A strong leader would have buried Cardboard Kev long ago. A strong leader would have the maturity and statesmanship not to fall to the gutter level of a public slanging match. Neither of them is fit to be the Prime Minister of Australia.

I think you are totally correct about the fact that we will be far worse off under Tony (The Taxi) Abbott. However when you say neither of them are too bright....Kevin is very bright but Tony is Dull to be nice ..2 Bricks more like it........... and lest we forget.. he is the last bastard of the Howard Gvt.
He is the only one who hasn't worked out yet that he is History ...
Kevin killed the rest...even when he wasn't expected to win....even Rotten Old Howard....lost his seat....Fantastic.....Lest we forget what Kevin07 did
not to mention the Sorry ... to the indigeneous people...

The caucus surely cannot go so strongly against the public opinion.

As for me, both Rudd and Abbot are peculiar among politicians in that they are human, genuine and well, just blokes. Sure they are the inverse of each other but that's good, together they are a unit. I believe that only Rudd could challenge Abbot.

Neither are extremely bright when faced with the media, but they are both pretty straight up.

I firmly believe we will be significantly worse off under Abbot.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Watch out Liberal Voters

I think you are totally correct about the fact that we will be far worse off under Tony (The Taxi) Abbott. However when you say neither of them are too bright....Kevin is very bright but Tony is Dull to be nice ..2 Bricks more like it........... and lest we forget.. he is the last bastard of the Howard Gvt.
He is the only one who hasn't worked out yet that he is History ...
Kevin killed the rest...even when he wasn't expected to win....even Rotten Old Howard....lost his seat....Fantastic.....Lest we forget what Kevin07 did
not to mention the Sorry ... to the indigeneous people...

The caucus surely cannot go so strongly against the public opinion.

As for me, both Rudd and Abbot are peculiar among politicians in that they are human, genuine and well, just blokes. Sure they are the inverse of each other but that's good, together they are a unit. I believe that only Rudd could challenge Abbot.

Neither are extremely bright when faced with the media, but they are both pretty straight up.

I firmly believe we will be significantly worse off under Abbot.

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OMFG, another "i hate Howard" blaa blaa blaa

I have a sneaking suspicion that Abbott is probably just a little bit smarter than you.

They'll go for Gillard.