Australia donates $7billion to help Europe bailout

**Karate_Tommy** · Jun 28 2012, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by garry17

The Above article Does state the stimulus was a good thing, AND to an extent I agree. The infrastructure spending along with the resource sector created great advantage, I do not disagree. But the waste of management, of this very same has created far greater costs than needed. The hand outs where wasteful and did not achieve in any respect the intended purpose.

The roof insulation scheme alone, created a further cost of over a billion dollars, to simply check every roof after the deaths of workers due entirely to shoddy work. A major waste that if proper procedure was implemented, as the minister in charge (another ALP polly) told Rudd, before it was rushed out, would have been avoided.

Just to set things a little straight, I am not in totally agreement of the Liberal infrastructure spending, as the projects they alluded to, in my opinion, would have been less advantageous to the Australia in the long term.

BUT in no way have you provided the least amount of evidence of any of your claims. It is obvious you are simply spouting things out without any knowledge of actual facts.

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What happened too

Originally Posted by garry17

Australia on the other hand have blown 22 billion dollars with no return

Originally Posted by garry17

The hand outs where wasteful and did not achieve in any respect the intended purpose.

PROVE IT

**garry17** · Jun 28 2012, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

Oh ahahahaahahahah, You got owned by Karate_Tommy.
"To some extent you agree" Hahahah

It is what I said all along, take it as you like. it is you who tried your best to state something different.

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

What happened too

PROVE IT

Yes, 22b has been wasted, and YOU as well as I have shown the same with all them links. It is you who can not comprehend what is linked and stated. Do you even know how big the stimulus was? was it $22b? $42b? $100b? maybe $10b?

So far you have made some extrodinary claims without any supporting evidence, when are you going to put up something to show your claims? OR even refute the links already provided?

I know, we will get the old, it is known facts. Apparently only you know.

**Karate_Tommy** · Jun 28 2012, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by garry17

It is what I said all along, take it as you like. it is you who tried your best to state something different.

Yes, 22b has been wasted, and YOU as well as I have shown the same with all them links. It is you who can not comprehend what is linked and stated. Do you even know how big the stimulus was? was it $22b? $42b? $100b? maybe $10b?

So far you have made some extrodinary claims without any supporting evidence, when are you going to put up something to show your claims? OR even refute the links already provided?

I know, we will get the old, it is known facts. Apparently only you know.

I've proved it many times and have supplied enough evidence to support my claim POST stimulus you have pre stimulus claims.

Like a link to a economic stating that the stimulus handout was a waste of money.

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**garry17** · Jun 28 2012, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

I've proved it many times and have supplied enough evidence to support my claim POST stimulus you have pre stimulus claims.

let me see, you can not answer my question of exactly how much the Stimulus actually was,

but could you supply evidence of your claims of

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

... 17TRILLION to the bank rather then the economy, With such great thinking Joe Hockey would be campaign after Ben Bernanke retires.

As what you have provided actually states it was not only loaned to banks

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

They will default on their debt,Leave the euro,print drachmas and then give it to their people so it can circulate their economy.

Where have you got this predictions from, you have claimed to be fact.

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

...The banks committed fraud.

where is that evidence

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

Paying Credit agencys to rate derivatives as AAA+ or whatever is fraud.

One of the greatest claims

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

... So if you criticise this Government when the maybe powers to be are contradicting themselves and going to destroy Medicare and the Pension,Lowest interest rates then under any Liberal government

provide your evidence for this one

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

... Greece is leaving the euro so I ask what does this matter when it is definite they will be leaving?

again another claim

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

Even though you seem to ignore we were the best economy over the GFC,Lowest interest rates under any Liberal government,We now have overseas money pouring in...

and the one you continue to tout, which nothing you have linked has provided evidence of claim.

No, you provide nothing but expect everybody to beleive you. Answer some of your claims?

**Karate_Tommy** · Jun 28 2012, 05:25 AM

Changing the subject shows how full of it you are,

But I will provide evidence to these claims because I do not lie.

Will post tomorrow,Too late.

**garry17** · Jun 28 2012, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by Karate_Tommy

Changing the subject shows how full of it you are,

But I will provide evidence to these claims because I do not lie.

Will post tomorrow,Too late.

Apparently, it is you who continued to change the subject as these where claims you have been asked to provide evidence previously for and have totally refused.

Along with many more, that you claimed to show how right you are.

**aussiefree2ride** · Jun 28 2012, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by culldav

D&D, there is not a doubt in my head that these idiotic politicians have and will slash Australian jobs and Australia welfare to give to foreign strangers.

If anyone told a psychologist or psychiatrist they were behaving the way politicians behave in this regard, they would be put on medication for having a mental illness.

I’m simply at a loss as to why Australians are allowing these cretins to throw this kind of money away when this country is falling behind the rest of the world in so many ways.

It just always come back to why Indians and people form others countries are now being educated and trained that Australians are dumb and backward.

I don’t like saying this often, but Australians are a fairly dumb people, and the more you expand your intellect the dumber they look. In Australia, you are forced to fit into a certain intellectual niche (if you can find one) or you have to be prepared to walk alone, because the only other option available is to dumb yourself down with alcohol, drugs or be a fanatical spots fan just to fit to their way of life.

I think Australians need to realise their culture can be more than just alcohol, drugs and sporting events. Surely there has to be more depth to the Australian culture than living their lives through the glorification and “hero” status of a common athlete.

Maybe a few less hours guzzling down as many beers as possible, or at the TAB, or watching footy might just help them understand what’s really going on around them - then again, maybe not.

There are a number of reasons for Australians becoming increasingly weaker, and dumber as time goes on. Not the least being the distortion of our pioneering heratige, according to the PC "version" there is nothing positive in this regard, they are brainwashing our children with selective filth to defame defenseless, dead people. What a gutless, exercise this has been, it contributes to their agenda of rotting the soul out of this country.

Another cancerous influence is the agenda of beating an inferioty complex into the Australian psych. Remember the Cronulla riots? Do we ever hear from Australia hating scum, the fact that Aussie blokes got sick of women being spat on and abused, that this was what started the fight? This is one of many examples of the low mindset of PC jellybacks.

The welfare mentality that has been nurtured since the Whitlam era, is another issue. We have, for some generations now, engaged in a breeding program for the shallow end of the gene pool. There now are "families" who haven`t worked for four generations, who leach every fascet of their useless existance off working Australians. This has been an ALP vote buying exercise, the ALP will clamour for power at any cost to this country.

This country, I believe, is beginning to wake up to these, and other handicaps that weaken the Nation. The period of high influence of greedy, parasitic, self interest groups, is comming to an end. The pendulum is swinging away from the mindset of taking from the country, and moving toward one of caring for the country.