Thread: Australia's Negative Political Climate

The barrage of negative political posturing seems to be fast defining our nation as a pessimistic and negative breed who are influenced and caught up in drama and upheaval, analogised by what is impacting on our children, and adults for that matter the world over, via social media networks and consequently causing issues such as anxiety and depression. Are we self depressing via allowing negative political forces to manipulate our well being and psyche as a nation. American politics seems to have driven its people into financial and personal depression through a brutal political system that has transpired into a competitive game between 2 groups working essentially for the one team, but causing much more destruction than good in the process. Personal victory at any cost to its people collectively is devastating and represented by opposition for the sake of opposing. The opposition in Australia is dangerously following this same pattern. It is fast deteriorating into a self projecting political game, of which our overall wellbeing is peripheral and not the complete focus. Unless Australia and its people respond now to reject this self destructive and negative political game playing, we'll also find ourselves in an undesirable predicament. It's obviously important for political parties to keep each other in check but more important that political parties honestly and genuinely do what is right especially in times like this. Echoing and repetitive mantras are designed to disorientate and consequently cause people to lose their objective bearings. There aren't too many major reforms that have been rolled back or dissolved within Australian politics, especially ones that have been vehemently opposed. It is a case of opposition for the sake of opposing. The GST is an example of the scare mongering, albeit on a lesser aggressive manner. Labour through Keating initially floated the idea but then opposed it when refloated by the liberals. Our politicians generally have the same mindsets but in some instances extremism sneaks in if we allow ourselves to be hoodwinked by negative politicking. Let's not allow this type of politics to cut off our noses to spite our faces.

Hi and welcome.

In my opinion, it basically comes down to corporate dominance. America is so dominated by corporate interests that i fear it is essentially hopeless. Only a revolution will save them now. They are politically paralysed, serving the interests of the powerful far more than the interests of the commoner (called common, because they are the norm).

I think we're about 20 years behind them. So in 20 years, if we don't change course soon, we may be in much the same position.

Having said that; we're filthy rich (relatively speaking). This is when people seem to care less about issues of greater importance than ourselves, because "i'm alright mate"?

Originally Posted by Recusant

Hi and welcome.

In my opinion, it basically comes down to corporate dominance. America is so dominated by corporate interests that i fear it is essentially hopeless. Only a revolution will save them now. They are politically paralysed, serving the interests of the powerful far more than the interests of the commoner (called common, because they are the norm).

I think we're about 20 years behind them. So in 20 years, if we don't change course soon, we may be in much the same position.

Having said that; we're filthy rich (relatively speaking). This is when people seem to care less about issues of greater importance than ourselves, because "i'm alright mate"?

True enough the revolutionary process has already been started and will emerge more and more openly,and I agree the content will be and is concerning property rights and economic inequality ,we are seeing the chief political mechanism of Capitalist rule ,the ALP oh and as the latest 'Polls " show the Lib\Nat coalition is looking a bit on the nose as well ,the problem they have is of course that in office it is they who will face GFC mk2 and with absolutly No room to manuvre with surplus in order to stimulate ,oh and lets not forget on the Fiscal frount the intrest rates are going down ,in order to stabilise the housing market bubble ,only problem there is that lowering intrest rates mean lower attractiveness to Investment.


Looks like the irresovlable economic contradictions of the capitialist Mode of production is hitting a brick wall called Depression.Oh the min ig boom that accopunts for 70% of exports ,boom means bust get ready ,its time to start thinking Revolution again.not just in the USA.

Yes I think we are on a declining run, how bad it gets will be determined by where you live globally. A great depression......not so sure about that. GFC mk2, maybe not as steep as the first but likely to last much longer. Corporate and political institutions learnt nothing from the first GFC, all they did was relabel the product and re sell it. If the product is a dud it inevitably fails again.

Problem for Australia is we now have no money to insulate us from the worst. So we will feel this collapse much more than the first. Retail here has been griping for two years that things aren't great. It has fallen on deaf ears. Today will shed more light on the future as Europe is reeling yet again and stocks are plumetting. The libs may not get a chance to solve the problem as it may arrive sooner than we think.

Like anything moderation is the key. As we are seeing these days the corporate monopoly is not working. The world has tried the socialist extreme.....did not work. You have to find the happy medium, a financial and social utopia so to speak. That will never happen as long as humans are involved. We are a greedy animal with very little thought for those around us. It seems our job on Earth is to destroy everything we touch.

For countless decades, both Australia’s two major political parties have been playing this insidious and endless “merry-go-round” game of them verses us, which was deliberately initiated to con and confuse the common people into believing there was “two” political parties. But in actual fact, there is only “one” political party. If we use our common sense and look deep enough, we will discover both these political parties (Liberals/Nationals - Labor/Greens) are the left and right arms of the same twisted and distorted body. The twisted distorted body belongs to the foreign bankers and foreign Governments who rules our politicians - and who in turn rule us.

Yes, the opposition party is suppose to keep the ruling party honest with checks and balances, but when was the last time an opposition party released an issue to the media or general public regarding a ruling parties dishonesty or bad policy that the public or media didn’t already know about FIRST?

This begs the question as to why tax payer are funding opposition salaries and expenditure to the tune of hundreds of million per year, when these politicians are doing nothing more than sitting across a table asking the ruling party same questions and getting the same answers that the media ask and get for FREE.

We have a situation whereby the opposition will be elected into Govern this country without any decent policies (or completely suspect policies) simply on based on the incompetence and mistakes of the current political party. This situation is a sad indictment of the Australian political movement and its people when there is a race to the bottom, and not the top.

As with all “addicts” you have to hit rock bottom to be able to climb back out, and when this financial situation MK2 goes BANG, lets just hope the Australian addicts can finally see for themselves who the real parasites have been and who have cause the problems - politicians.

A $trillion economy, and for the past two decades nothing has been built or purchased for the Australian people - besides a few relocatable portable school buildings. Just what in hell have they been doing with all this money?

We're just spoilt brats.

$10trillion in 10 years, and nothing has been built or purchased for the people. I suppose politicians building or buying "something" or "anything" for the people is asking for too much, and we would be considered spoiled brats. All we have been living off is a resource industry and an over inflated housing market, but I guess we are spoiled brats wanting so little. LOL LOL

We're worrying about a new LED tv and wondering why we can't afford 3D and woe is us.

Originally Posted by culldav

deliberately initiated to con and confuse the common people into believing there was “two” political parties. But in actual fact, there is only “one” political party. If we use our common sense and look deep enough, we will discover both these political parties (Liberals/Nationals - Labor/Greens) are the left and right arms of the same twisted and distorted body. The twisted distorted body belongs to the foreign bankers and foreign Governments who rules our politicians - and who in turn rule us.

I mostly agree on the single 'system', but i disagree as to the left/right arms. I don't see Labor as leftists at all, and the greens are more centre-left than far left on economic matters. The Greens would perhaps be further to the left if the overwhelming power of the international financiers would allow it, which of course they wouldn't. It's because politics serves power and by large the 'system' is just too complex for people to grip (me included), so people go around thinking they've got it good (here anyway). So the 'people' don't have the power in our society. And maybe we do have it good too, because our wealth is on the back of people in the third world, who subsidise our life with cheap labour and poor environmental and social outcomes.

I dispute that Australians have it too good. If “good’ represent material possessions; then yes, maybe some Australians do have too good, but overall, the majority of Australians do it tough to survive. Ask any of the 300,000 plus homeless Australian on this cold winters night if they have it too good. Ask the individuals with a mental illness or disability if they have it too good, or the parents of a child that’s been killed in a accident due to shoddy road conditions if they have it too good.

Politicians keep telling us we have it good, but where is all this “good” we are suppose to have?

Politicians have not constructed anything or purchased anything for the peoples benefit for the past four/five decades, but they claim we should be grateful for what we have.

Politicians don’t want to build anything or buy anything for the people, because they keep saying that cannot afford to do it. They seem to be able to borrow money for everything else, then why not borrow money to invest in Australia’s future by building and buying.

They could easily borrow money to build mines in this country, whereby ALL the profits would stay and be returned to the Australians who own the resources in the first place. If they are not competent to operate a mining industry, then how can they be competent to managing a whole countries economy - it begs the question.

They are parasites that have had their snouts in the gravy train for so long, they now wouldn’t know what a days work is.