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About LinkBacksNo... putting a cap on carbon emissions is supposed to reduce carbon emissions, selling the permits is supposed to create a price incentive.
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No... putting a cap on carbon emissions is supposed to reduce carbon emissions, selling the permits is supposed to create a price incentive.
Capping carbon pollution will bring it down. It demonstrate your lack of understanding on the whole system culldav. Companies will look to innovate or utilise renewable energy rather than purchase carbon credits. Somehow I reckon our carbon footprint will be reduced significantly more than is actually predicted!Originally Posted by culldav
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Come on lads
You can't just hear something and then go around repeating it like a parrot without analysing it.
The only way CO2 emissions are going to be reduced is if they say that we will be without electricity for 5 hours in the day everyday from now until 2020.
Caping carbon pollution will not make the companies invest in renewable energy, no one will stick there necks out to built a new power plant based on renewable energy because when you do something like that and its unsuccessful you will end up burning the shirt of your back and your business will go broke.
Renewable is an unknown quantity when it comes to powering a whole city.
The farming and trading of carbon credits on the market is the biggest the biggest fallacy of all that somehow this will put a price on carbon and make the big polluters switch to renewables.
The carbon pricing beast has been created, the people running this show are more concerned with the health of their market and its share than the pollution going into our atmosphere.
Lads unless they cut our electricty for a certain number of hours per day, our CO2 emissions will keep rising up until 2020 and beyond.
The only thing that would have changed is our standard of living, because we will be financing this carbon tax ETS, thats right me you and every other consumer in our country.
CO2 emissions they dont hurt the Earth the politicians know this and i dont think they really care, there objective is to place us into a position of financial slavery, yeah thats right send out billions of our dollars to some dicwads over in the UN, who are just rubbing their hands together.
There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than the carbon tax. dumbanddumber
"The cost, paid by big polluters, will be passed through to the prices of the goods you buy." Julia Gillard
"Australian households will ultimately bear the full cost of the carbon price." Ross Garnaut
"A carbon tax does not guarantee emissions reductions" Former Labor Climate Change Minister Penny Wong
While I don't want to get into the endless debate over the science, it is suffice to say that the imposition on you and me is no where near as extreme as you continue to waffle on about. Carbon will be reduced and renewable energies will be innovated. These corporations will try to use this pocket money for carbon credits on renewable innovation. Both BHP and Rio Tinto are working on these projects as we speak.
It is day 19 and haven't heard a negative about the carbon price.....just a few grumblings about Abbott's leadership!........hmmmmmm
It is day 18 and no mention of the Carbon Price!!!!
Abbott was actually busy today apparently defending his poor polling, which has Gillard ahead by 4 percentage points as preferred PM. Just remember...he greased the pole himself on this one!!
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It is day 18 and still nothing!
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except a 20% increase approved for power and About 16% on natural gas.
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Hey vigilante
Another trojan horse has breached your walls again.
And remember the cost of carbon pricing will be passed onto the consumer as you can see.
The big polluters will not be paying one red cent.
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Last edited by dumbanddumber; Jun 13 2012 at 01:24 AM.
There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than the carbon tax. dumbanddumber
"The cost, paid by big polluters, will be passed through to the prices of the goods you buy." Julia Gillard
"Australian households will ultimately bear the full cost of the carbon price." Ross Garnaut
"A carbon tax does not guarantee emissions reductions" Former Labor Climate Change Minister Penny Wong
This is not a consequence of carbon pricing!! Get me something that relates this increase to the carbon price and I may believe you....serious!
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-1...crease/4068266IPART chairman Peter Boxall says half of the overall increase is because of rising transmission costs for poles and wires, while the other half is due to the introduction of the carbon tax.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1...er-power-billsNSW electricity prices are set to rise by an average of 18 per cent, with the state's pricing regulator blaming half that figure on the carbon tax.
do we really need to go on?
"Be as smart as you can, but remember that it is always better to be wise than to be smart."
Alan Alda
"If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?" Scott Adams
"Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up."Jesse Jackson
"A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song."
Maya Angelou
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