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Old 09-28-2008, 01:24 AM
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Just do it like America, where the President is the Head of Sate and the same as the PM.
Well then we would have to change our entire electoral system, as the President is not "selected" by his party but is directly voted for by the people of the nation.
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We should become a Republic. We have use for the Queen, we do not need her, she has been here, what, three times since the fifties. Get rid of her.
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I'm gobsmacked that you lot haven't had the get up and go to change things.

It would also be a spiffing idea if you got rid of that ludicrous flag
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I'm gobsmacked that you lot haven't had the get up and go to change things.

It would also be a spiffing idea if you got rid of that ludicrous flag
I don't like the flag only because it has the stupid Union Jack on it. If we became a Republic we'd get to change it.
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Should Australia be a republic?

(*)(*)(*)(*) no.

Get rid of the Monarchy and we have to elect a ceremonial President.

Who the (*)(*)(*)(*) is that going to be?

Alan Bond?

Jeff Kennet?

Kylie?

Howard?

David Kosch?

Leave well enough alone.

At least the Queen leaves us well enough alone.
A ceremonial monarch or a ceremonial president? Both are simply figureheads. But a ceremonial president would mean that the ties were finally broken so I'd be okay with that.
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Well then we would have to change our entire electoral system, as the President is not "selected" by his party but is directly voted for by the people of the nation.
No we wouldn't have to change our entire electoral system. The minimalist model would see the Parliament elect the president. Remember the office of Prime Minister and the existence of the Cabinet isn't recognised either in English law or Australian law. It's merely a custom observed by the parliament. If a president were to be popularly elected then it would mean that there could be some argument about the legal and moral authority of a president over the PM. I'm okay with the parliament electing a figurehead president.
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Same, if there is going to be any change, just keep it minimalist.
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No we wouldn't have to change our entire electoral system. The minimalist model would see the Parliament elect the president. Remember the office of Prime Minister and the existence of the Cabinet isn't recognised either in English law or Australian law. It's merely a custom observed by the parliament. If a president were to be popularly elected then it would mean that there could be some argument about the legal and moral authority of a president over the PM. I'm okay with the parliament electing a figurehead president.
Why not just have the same system, except that the Prime Minster is called President? Hes basically the head of state already anyway, and theres little point in making a ceremonial office- usually those are inherited, from back when they weren't ceremonial.
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Why not just have the same system, except that the Prime Minster is called President? Hes basically the head of state already anyway, and theres little point in making a ceremonial office- usually those are inherited, from back when they weren't ceremonial.
The PM isn't head of state. This is the balance thing. The PM is a rabid political animal. He or she has an agenda they must prosecute in the parliament. A president should be above partisan politics and in replacing the monarch needs to be removed from the day to day grubbery. The president, I think, needs to be in an analagous postion to the High Court (taking away that bastard Barwick) and should be above partisan politics - as is (theoretically) the monarch. The president should be a servant of the constitution.
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I'm gobsmacked that you lot haven't had the get up and go to change things.
We did, the ammendment never passed, now we have to wait ten years.

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