Originally Posted by AlphaOmega Originally Posted by Bowerbird Really? Anti-abortion laws - not liberal backed I bet You know the ones where a woman is forced to undergo an ultrasound even if she has already had TWO showing that the baby is incompatible with life and if she tries not to watch because it is tearing her heart out the medical officer has to BY LAW describe what the ultrasound is showing Good example of how your first amendment works eh? How about the whole "Docs and Glocks" ...
Originally Posted by Durandal It's mental illness + availability of guns and ammo, pure and simple. We can go after one, the other or both. I think both would be best. Right now, we not only have a LOT of guns and easily accessible ammo around, but we have young mentally ill people not locked up when they ought to be thanks to a reform in the '70's. So, we as a nation have our work cut out for us in reforming some laws in need of reforming. All that matters is preventing this kind of crap from happening as much as is humanly ...
Originally Posted by The DARK LORD Originally Posted by MegadethFan Show how the fact the brain does not facilitate self-awareness and consciousness until after birth is false. Go ahead. dont need to. being alive is all that is required to have a "right to life", NOT ANYTHING ELSE. Even if I do concede that a couple of cells have a "right to life" that right is NOT at the expense of another person