stevenswld

The IQ test does not really test for intelligence.....it test what you know. I'm sure if a non western culture developed their own counterpart for the IQ and gave it to those on the west, it would not surprise me if they would score lower than they. Or it’s like someone giving you a test that they are an expert in, such as gardening, but you don’t. You might be able to guess a few of the answers but you will score very low. So if a person is not very literate and is a choice between true or false to this statement; the seventh vowel appearing in this sentence is the letter "a." The person might not know what a vowel.

But as far as I am concern I don’t care how high or low one might score on an IQ test…..what matters to me is respecting, loving and treating others as equal, and that no one is superior or inferior to anyone. We may have different gifts, talents, and abilities, whatever. But those are to be used for the benefits and blessings of others, and not to use to make those who may have other gifts seem inferior or not as good. It’s the natural tendency for human beings to want to exalt themselves over others by highlighting the things that they are very good at, that others may not be. While at the same time minimize the things that they are not so good at as unimportant.

And I like that when it comes to denial of facts.......the U.S also have a problem dealing with its own historical record when confronted with it.

Shocker the above post is not coherent, at all.

I am not convinced a single sentence above is correct. Let me check.

"The IQ test does not really test for intelligence.....it test what you know."
OK... out of the gate I am wrong. Including the ellipsis, it is a coherent sentence.
"I'm sure if a non western culture developed their own counterpart for the IQ and gave it to those on the west, it would not surprise me if they would score lower than they."
Whew... that is not English. Corrections would be non-western, on the west to in the west, they cannot score lower than they as they are the same person in the sentence.
"Or it’s like someone giving you a test that they are an expert in, such as gardening, but you don’t."
Aren't is the only word that comes to mind that would make the above make sense.
"You might be able to guess a few of the answers but you will score very low."
(*)(*)(*)(*)... another actual correct usage of the language. My skimming of the post seems to betray me.
"o if a person is not very literate and is a choice between true or false to this statement; the seventh vowel appearing in this sentence is the letter "a." The person might not know what a vowel."
Wow. I am redeemed. There is almost nothing about that which is correct.
"But as far as I am concern I don’t care how high or low one might score on an IQ test…..what matters to me is respecting, loving and treating others as equal, and that no one is superior or inferior to anyone. We may have different gifts, talents, and abilities, whatever."
Well... that would be particularly likely. The unfortunate retort to that is that we cannot all be Einstein, changing the scope of our known universe. We cannot all be special forces, winning the war. We cannot all be The Wright brothers, simple bicycle makers who discover flight. We cannot all be Tesla. I am none of these people... but I do comprehend the language. Perhaps English is not your first language, so I will stop going line by line... as unless your native language is Latin or Esperanto, I can't fix it.

I do not think you understand how an IQ test works, as it does not test your understanding from a given culture, but your capacity to learn, comprehend, and recall. It is not a western trick, which is why the west does not hold the record genius IQ.

In short, if I scored low, I would question it too.

I stand by what I said......a high or low IQ really does not matter one way or the other.......it does not make one a better human being if the they have a high or a low IQ.

Originally Posted by Ctrl

Shocker the above post is not coherent, at all.

I am not convinced a single sentence above is correct. Let me check.

"The IQ test does not really test for intelligence.....it test what you know."
OK... out of the gate I am wrong. Including the ellipsis, it is a coherent sentence.
"I'm sure if a non western culture developed their own counterpart for the IQ and gave it to those on the west, it would not surprise me if they would score lower than they."
Whew... that is not English. Corrections would be non-western, on the west to in the west, they cannot score lower than they as they are the same person in the sentence.
"Or it’s like someone giving you a test that they are an expert in, such as gardening, but you don’t."
Aren't is the only word that comes to mind that would make the above make sense.
"You might be able to guess a few of the answers but you will score very low."
(*)(*)(*)(*)... another actual correct usage of the language. My skimming of the post seems to betray me.
"o if a person is not very literate and is a choice between true or false to this statement; the seventh vowel appearing in this sentence is the letter "a." The person might not know what a vowel."
Wow. I am redeemed. There is almost nothing about that which is correct.
"But as far as I am concern I don’t care how high or low one might score on an IQ test…..what matters to me is respecting, loving and treating others as equal, and that no one is superior or inferior to anyone. We may have different gifts, talents, and abilities, whatever."
Well... that would be particularly likely. The unfortunate retort to that is that we cannot all be Einstein, changing the scope of our known universe. We cannot all be special forces, winning the war. We cannot all be The Wright brothers, simple bicycle makers who discover flight. We cannot all be Tesla. I am none of these people... but I do comprehend the language. Perhaps English is not your first language, so I will stop going line by line... as unless your native language is Latin or Esperanto, I can't fix it.

I do not think you understand how an IQ test works, as it does not test your understanding from a given culture, but your capacity to learn, comprehend, and recall. It is not a western trick, which is why the west does not hold the record genius IQ.

In short, if I scored low, I would question it too.

1) Grammar trolling someone whose 1st language obviously is not English? Wow... how low-class of you.

2) You apparently understand nothing about IQ tests, the various forms of intelligence or the bias inherent in a significant portion of IQ tests.

Originally Posted by toddwv

1) Grammar trolling someone whose 1st language obviously is not English? Wow... how low-class of you..

I've always find curious that people who consider themselves smart or more intelligent than other people tend to resort to insult, as if by doing that proves that they are correct......his remark was a low-blow (had nothing to do with the topic at hand), but I did not want to dignify it by responding to him about it.

Originally Posted by toddwv

2) You apparently understand nothing about IQ tests, the various forms of intelligence or the bias inherent in a significant portion of IQ tests.

You’re correct on this.......it is much in favor of the west and particular those of the Caucasian persuasion. It only feeds that ego......some people can't feel good about themselves unless they feel as if they are superior to others.

BFSmith@764

Yes you should try to treat people as equals except when the reality of differing characteristics between races is important say like when looking to build a successful basketball team Africa is a good starting point, where if your looking for the next swimming champion its a bad place.

While you should not practice discrimination by prejudging, reality says the outcomes will be based on race for many things including intelligence. As for an IQ test, never really thought it was an accurate measure of intelligence. The only objective measure done on a big sample base is our education systems which the Asians seem to dominate.

Originally Posted by rightsaidfred

BFSmith@764

Yes you should try to treat people as equals except when the reality of differing characteristics between races is important say like when looking to build a successful basketball team Africa is a good starting point, where if your looking for the next swimming champion its a bad place.

While you should not practice discrimination by prejudging, reality says the outcomes will be based on race for many things including intelligence. As for an IQ test, never really thought it was an accurate measure of intelligence. The only objective measure done on a big sample base is our education systems which the Asians seem to dominate.

There is no such thing as race......it is an artificial construct by those whose interest was to subjugate others they believe is inferior to them. Gifts and talents do not make one superior or inferior to another person....they are simply something that one may be born with that stands out that should used for the benefit of service to others. Everyone has some type of talent or gift(s), it’s just that those that have certain vested interest only promote the ones that they benefits from the most.