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Old 05-17-2006, 11:12 AM
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This dimwit president of ours claims his new tax bill will be putting 880 billion back into taxpayers pockets. That's about $3000 per American. I don't feel $3000 more wealthy after last year. What about the over 800 billion we have speant in Iraq and Afghanistan. I for one, feel more financially burdened with our weak economy and high fuel prices. As for the 800 billion gone? We still don't have Bin Laden and terrorism still happens on a daily basis?
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"weak economy???"

What planet did you just come in from?
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Terrorist attacks every day? I guess I missed those, the US is experiencing terrorist attacks on a daily basis? And when did Bush claim he was going to completely rid the world of terrorism? And in a few years nonetheless?
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I don't think he meant it saved the average person $3,000 this year. But I didn't hear the quote. Regardless, why is any amount in my hands as opposed to the government's a bad thing? I'll take $10, $100 or $1,000.
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Terrorist attacks every day? I guess I missed those, the US is experiencing terrorist attacks on a daily basis? And when did Bush claim he was going to completely rid the world of terrorism? And in a few years nonetheless?
There may not be terrorist attacks everyday in the US but there are terrorist attacks in Iraq and other parts of the world on a daily basis. Since Bush has proclaimed his war on terror there has been no decline on terrorist attacks around the world. All I'm saying is the 800+ billion spent in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't done a whole lot to halt terrorism.
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I don't think he meant it saved the average person $3,000 this year. But I didn't hear the quote. Regardless, why is any amount in my hands as opposed to the government's a bad thing? I'll take $10, $100 or $1,000.

I'm saying that if you take a population of 260 million and spread the supposed 880 billion dollars of tax money evenly. On average every american would receive $3000. But if you take a large chunck of that 880 billion and put it twords tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans it makes the figure of 880 billion not so impressive.
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Keep in mind that the bottom 50% of taxpayers pay nothing at all or next to nothing. You can't really give them back $3,000 when they never paid the $3,000 to begin with. You can't give tax cuts to people who don't pay taxes. It stands to reason if you cut taxes in all brackets, then the people who paid the most taxes get the biggest breaks. It's math.
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Keep in mind that the bottom 50% of taxpayers pay nothing at all or next to nothing. You can't really give them back $3,000 when they never paid the $3,000 to begin with. You can't give tax cuts to people who don't pay taxes. It stands to reason if you cut taxes in all brackets, then the people who paid the most taxes get the biggest breaks. It's math.
Yes, but being that 25% of the poulation own more money than the remaining 75%. I think that those 25% have a moral obligation to carry the bulk of the tax burden.
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Maybe they do. But even with the tax cuts, they still pay the freight. I don't see that issue being anything more than a Democratic soundbite. And it may resonate, but I don't understand how. Unless the argument is that the tax breaks should not have been across the board.
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Terrorist attacks every day? I guess I missed those, the US is experiencing terrorist attacks on a daily basis? And when did Bush claim he was going to completely rid the world of terrorism? And in a few years nonetheless?
There may not be terrorist attacks everyday in the US but there are terrorist attacks in Iraq and other parts of the world on a daily basis. Since Bush has proclaimed his war on terror there has been no decline on terrorist attacks around the world. All I'm saying is the 800+ billion spent in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't done a whole lot to halt terrorism.
No terrorist attacks in the US however, so he must have done something right. And Al Qaeda, in their own words, have been significantly damaged. Again, must have done something right.
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Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

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