Thread: Cain's 9-9-9 plan

Originally Posted by BuckNaked

I get it, have along. Tax breaks to create jobs is a pointless talking point and a scam perpetrated by the best government corporate money can buy.


Tax breaks do not create jobs!!! If anything they funnel jobs to another dominating source. Tax loopholes, tax breaks/incentives, and cronyism exemptions that literally riddle the tax code are in place to directly benefit the rich corporations and destroy their competition, small/up and coming business, who already have enough problems to deal with. They and the largest majority of the (WTF) regulations are in place to accomplish one thing and one thing only, maximize profits for a few isolated selective corporate entities. So does voting for one of the two corporate owned controlling political parties. Trust me I get it. Wish more people did.
　
Exactly why 9-9-9 wouldn’t become law even if it was a honest attempt at tax reform, which it isn’t.
　
Thanks for playing along.
　
　
People like me???

Tax breaks do not create jobs!!!

No, clearly you don't get it. Because they do...especially for small businesses already in operation, and for starting a new business as well. Absolutely positively.

Originally Posted by Meta777

kk8, do you agree with my views on earning?

In most cases...yes. Do I think there are people earning far more than what they are worth...yes of course. Is it your job to police that? No.

You are worried that someone makes too much, far more than you are worried about people that do nothing, but EXCEPT to be compensated. That I think is pretty clear.

You can't nor should you have a piece of someone else's wealth whether you think he/she is worthy or not...you certainly are not ENTITLED to it, and you most definitely do not DESERVE it.

Originally Posted by kk8

In most cases...yes. Do I think there are people earning far more than what they are worth...yes of course. Is it your job to police that? No.

You are worried that someone makes too much, far more than you are worried about people that do nothing, but EXCEPT to be compensated. That I think is pretty clear.

You can't nor should you have a piece of someone else's wealth whether you think he/she is worthy or not...you certainly are not ENTITLED to it, and you most definitely do not DESERVE it.

Who said anything about me being worried about someone making too much? O_o
Who said anything about it being my job to do anything about that???
Why do you think I care about getting someone else's wealth?
I never said anything like that. O_o

Why do you think I'm not entitled to anything,
Why do you believe I don't deserve something?
It isn't as if I've been going around saying that I deserve anything. o_O

-Meta

Originally Posted by Meta777

Who said anything about me being worried about someone making too much? O_o
Who said anything about it being my job to do anything about that???
Why do you think I care about getting someone else's wealth?
I never said anything like that. O_o

Why do you think I'm not entitled to anything,
Why do you believe I don't deserve something?
It isn't as if I've been going around saying that I deserve anything. o_O

-Meta

Well I meant "you" in a general sense really. But, you are right you didn't. I apologize.

So, how do you feel about what I said? Do you or don't you agree...just replace the would "you" with "people" and start over.....

Originally Posted by kk8

No, clearly you don't get it. Because they do...especially for small businesses already in operation, and for starting a new business as well. Absolutely positively.

Are you schizophrenic? You just said that the Bush tax cuts (tax breaks for job creation) don't work, and then you say they do work, make up my mind??

Here is some of what is wrong with 9-9-9:

The 9% sales tax would lead to an unregulated underground economy. As prohibition gave rise to the mafia and the drug war gave us the drug cartels the underground economy will feed the creation of a new organized crime establishment.

No deductions from the 9% income flat tax - this is great for high earners and gives an advantage to those who need spend no money earning their income.

How about the office worker who might only buy a pencil and the mechanic who must spend a thousand dollars a year on new tools in order to do his job? Who gets screwed here?

Removal of the safety net - there has been little said about the de-funding of medicare and Social Security. Won't the sick and dying clog up the streets?

Elimination of the "Death" tax - Family dynasties, just like in other third world countries running government.

These are a few of the negatives. I can't think of any positives.

Excellent points one and all but,...
　
　

Removal of the safety net - there has been little said about the de-funding of medicare and Social Security. Won't the sick and dying clog up the streets?

　
　
Only for a short period of time and then it will balance out according to most supremacists.
　

Elimination of the "Death" tax - Family dynasties, just like in other third world countries running government.

　
　
If the government wasn't already so easily owned by the rich elites, finance reform eliminated the power of political parties, and the country wasn't already a plutocracy, this wouldn't be a problem so much. There are also rules established by the best government corporate money can buy, that already eludes the death tax, so at this point dynasty creation is already a reality.

But realistically there is no chance congress would go for Cain's plan.

Congress is in the business of selling loop holes. Why would they kill that golden goose?

But realistically there is no chance congress would go for Cain's plan.

Congress is in the business of selling loop holes. Why would they kill that golden goose?

That's one way to look at it, but realistically they have already been bought and paid for to create them.

9-9-9 is another scheme for the upward redistribution of income.

I have noticed that all the Republican candidates have a deep contempt for working people. So this plan of Cain's fits right in.

But congress is still in the business of selling tax breaks for campaign donations.

If I had enough cash I could get them to pass a Timber Depletion Allowance so I could clearcut my acreage and sell the timber without paying my fair share of income tax. Isn't that what big business does?