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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No mine is fact. You are being deceptive by saying it started with Abraham Lincoln. It did not. A couple of times it was used temporarily to pay for wars. That is what was supposed to happen in 1943.

    Our current system started in 1943. Read your link
    In 1862, in order to support the Civil War effort, Congress enacted the nation's first income tax law. It was a forerunner of our modern income tax in that it was based on the principles of graduated, or progressive, taxation and of withholding income at the source.
    Yes as I said it was the basis......


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    Yer tellin' me...

    ... tryin' to keep up with year-to-year tax changes for tax season is a nightmare...

    ... Schedule L has been kicked to the wayside this year...

    ... and grants to blind veterans for the purchase of vehicles are not considered taxable.
    Kinda funny how, instead of a 'sequester', the Wall Street bankers got bailed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer View Post
    Yes as I said it was the basis......
    But was always a temporary fix to pay for wars as it should have been in 1943. That means the income tax is not what it was meant to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    But was always a temporary fix to pay for wars as it should have been in 1943. That means the income tax is not what it was meant to be
    No it is the method by which income is taxed. I beleive you are introducing another topic all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer View Post
    No it is the method by which income is taxed. I beleive you are introducing another topic all together.
    No it was created and used as a temporary fix in other wars but after 1943 that precedent was abandoned and it has been permanent since. It could be said the income tax is illegal because it was designed to be temporary

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No it was created and used as a temporary fix in other wars but after 1943 that precedent was abandoned and it has been permanent since. It could be said the income tax is illegal because it was designed to be temporary

    No it cannot.

    There is an ongoing discussion regarding that issue.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/debate...ml#post4982445

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer View Post
    No it cannot.

    There is an ongoing discussion regarding that issue.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/debate...ml#post4982445
    I have shown it was not meant to be permanent you can deflect but even Ron Paul says so

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgIs6t7wr0A"]* Former IRS Agent and Congressman Ron Paul say Federal Income tax is illegal! - YouTube[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I have shown it was not meant to be permanent you can deflect but even Ron Paul says so

    * Former IRS Agent and Congressman Ron Paul say Federal Income tax is illegal! - YouTube
    Excuse me but I beleive Mr. Paul's opinion is purely self seeking and biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer View Post
    Excuse me but I beleive Mr. Paul's opinion is purely self seeking and biased.
    Of course you do. You will never admit any opinion but yours could be correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Of course you do. You will never admit any opinion but yours could be correct

    Not so...I need more than a political hack to assist me in moving my position. Have you read that thread I proffered you?

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