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About LinkBacksBecause we use a lot of drugs, and society would not tolerate their criminalization.Originally Posted by oldjar07
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Because we use a lot of drugs, and society would not tolerate their criminalization.
Sr. Correspondent
Don't know. It should be.
Analyst
So criminalizing some drugs is a good first step then, if you can't criminalize all of them right now. If you choose to do drugs that are illegal, then you should go to jail if that is the predetermined punishment. If they didn't want to go to jail, then they shouldn't have chosen to do them. I think a lot of laws are stupid, but I still have to follow them. Make them do something useful while they are in jail, like giving them a job.
Guru
No, it's not. It's a stupid, evil, hypocritical step that only an ignorant, fascist sack of $#!+ could possibly support.
I see. So, if, say, it is illegal to help Jews escape extermination camps, then if the predetermined punishment is death, you should be killed if you help a Jew escape an extermination camp?If you choose to do drugs that are illegal, then you should go to jail if that is the predetermined punishment.
Evil, despicable, fascist filth.
"If they didn't want to be executed, they shouldn't have tried to help Jews escape the extermination camps."If they didn't want to go to jail, then they shouldn't have chosen to do them.
My, how simple everything is when you are a stupid, ignorant, despicable, evil, lying, fascist sack of $#!+.
No, you don't. You can act like you've got a pair, as the Founding Fathers did, and openly defy the stupid, evil, fascist sacks of $#!+.I think a lot of laws are stupid, but I still have to follow them.
In more honest times, that was called, "slavery."Make them do something useful while they are in jail, like giving them a job.
The over-emotionalism and name calling only impairs the quality of your argument. The fellow effectively said punishments should be credible and that work can be used to reduce the social cost associated with it. Comparing that to fascism was terribly silly!
Guru
One of the problems is that our federal Congress is only delegated the power to Regulate forms of Commerce among the several States of the Union since the Repeal of the only delegated power to Prohibit forms of Commerce among the several States with our Twenty-First Amendment.
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void." Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S. (Cranch) 137, 174,176
Guru
IMO most of the great evils of the world could have been prevented by someone accurately, persistently and proudly identifying them as such. Throwing millions of people who present no significant threat to others' rights in prison is evil. One wonders if someone could ever use the word, "evil," and not get a "Tut tut, such over-emotionalism and name calling," from you.
No, he said that law made them RIGHTFUL, which is not only the legalistic fallacy but fascist tripe.The fellow effectively said punishments should be credible
??? This, from the jackass who claims to understand LABOR MARKETS???and that work can be used to reduce the social cost associated with it.
BWAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Yeah, imagine comparing throwing millions of innocent people into prison with fascism! What was I thinking?Comparing that to fascism was terribly silly!
Evil filth.
There is nothing in your reply. Its just repetition of that emotionalism and therefore it merely represents a refusal to make credible argument.
Analyst
First of all, what is wrong with Fascism? It is a good, efficient form of government. The Founding Fathers complained about taxes, which were actually very low. They got a lot of advantages for having mainland Britain support and protect them. I think it is completely reasonable that they should have been taxed to pay for the war. And yes, jail is slavery, what else would it be? I'm sure many prisoners would enjoy getting some fresh air and doing something worthwhile, instead of sitting in a prison cell all day. And why don't you show me a reasonable example instead of using emotional appeals like Reiver said. I obviously don't support extermination camps, even though the U.S. has been just as bad as Nazi Germany in that regard. Why are drugs the major focus for overturning laws? There are many other stupid laws.
This is from WikiAnswers website, but explains my views on pre-revolution America well:
"The answer given by the above gentlemen being correct, however not very informative. As stated above, leading up to during and after the French and Indian war, Britain had invested huge quantities of resources into her American colonies.
Britains national debt during this period had rocketed from £76m to £114m, all borrowed from Dutch & other oversees lenders. This is without even considering the British loss of life during this conflict, which at large involved protection of the American colonies (Colonists) so they could continue to prosper.
I find it quite amusing in retrospect that the American colonies became so riled by the relatively low taxes they "Endured" compared with their English counterparts. The words "No taxation without representation" seem somewhat childish on account the American colonists were enjoying the fruits of the Empire (Tea, Tobacco, Sugar, general supplies etc....) without any taxation for considerable time. So much so that at around the 1750's America was though to be consuming 50% more than it was exporting. It would appear they were used to getting the better deal whilst the citizens at the heart of the working of the Empire were to suffer their usual high taxation on goods.
The actions of the soon to be newly formed "USA" during her revolution are almost pureile, contemptuous & a disgrace. She did for many years life off the back of her mother land and never seemed concerned with representation within parliament whilst their goods were cheap, free from tax and being produced by the blood, sweat & god knows what else of Britain citizens, subjects, levies etc...... America almost appears a breakaway, selfish teenage wanting on what it beleives right for it's self, regardless of the efforts of it's mother during it's birth and subsequent adolescence.
All Britain received for it's determination, blood, money & hard work at the end was a knife in her back and a finger in the air. She was left financially, morally and physically wounded following the American revolution.
The taxes imposed were nominal, justified and only fair on account of the financial and manpower involvedment of Britain and this revolution, had it not been for the Childish and hard done by views of the Colonists should never have happened."
Crikey you fellows deserve each other!
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