How to Defeat a Liberal in a Debate

**Xerographica** · Mar 26 2012, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Someone

The data is pretty clear. Liberal economies grow faster, have a more even distribution of benefits, achieve far greater material prosperity, have far less social unrest, and have overall higher measures of quality of life.

Errr...you seemed to have missed my question. Does your perspective matter?

**Slyhunter** · Mar 26 2012, 04:55 PM

http://www.thehungergames.co.uk/ liberal utopia.

**Anikdote** · Mar 26 2012, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Reiver

Technically freedom loving will lead you to socialism!

Oh is this where we start down the wage-labor = slavery stuff?

Sorry I'll take emergent order over top down every day of the week.

**MisLed** · Mar 26 2012, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Someone

The data is pretty clear. Liberal economies grow faster, have a more even distribution of benefits, achieve far greater material prosperity, have far less social unrest, and have overall higher measures of quality of life.

link to those liberal economies. Thankseverso.

**Reiver** · Mar 26 2012, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Anikdote

Oh is this where we start down the wage-labor = slavery stuff?

Sorry I'll take emergent order over top down every day of the week.

Protection of property rights! Its not possible in capitalism (e.g. Attempts to control the problem, through unionisation, often are used to support hierarchical relationships and redistribution between workers)

**toddwv** · Mar 26 2012, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Someone

Except, of course, that the evidence overwhelmingly favors liberal economic policy over conservative economic policy.

That's true. 70 years of progressive economic policies and there was prosperity unseen before in the US.

30 years of moving towards "conservative" economic policies and the only people prospering are the elite of the elite.

**Anders Hoveland** · Mar 26 2012, 10:10 PM

Both of these arguments have some merits but are fundamentally flawed.
But I tend to lean towards the left on economic policies, at least within the context of racial separatism.

**Someone** · Mar 27 2012, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Xerographica

Errr...you seemed to have missed my question. Does your perspective matter?

What perspective? I am not talking about individual analysis or an individual viewpoint. I am talking about hard economic fact. Asking "does your perspective matter" in relation to that is akin to a situation where two people are each looking at a rock; the fact that from the second person's angle the rock happens to look like a rabbit is irrelevant to the question "is the rock made of granite?"