Good Lord do you honestly think anyone is going to wade through all of that?

Do you EVER start a thread with one of your own ideas? Or is it your schtick to cut-and-paste everything you want to discuss and call it a new topic?

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I definitely did not wade through all that. You could have boiled it down, I assume , to the premise that there are no really poor people in America because hardly anyone is starving and everyone has a T.V. and a refrigerator. OF COURSE, everyone has a T.V. and frig. So what?

Why don't you answer these questions: how many Americans have a positive net worth? How many Americans have comprehensive health coverage? How many Americans will be in financial trouble if 1) they are unemployed for more than 2 months 2) have a significant health problem? How many Americans are able to save for retirement?

Answer the following question. Can we afford this comprehensive health coverage for everyone, and what makes someone entitled to such things?

Answer this question, how do we get all those poor fat women to stop eating so much? And if we can, will they be less poor because there food budget is lower, and thus be able to pay the bills this coming month? Will we need comprehensive health care if all those fat people would just lose a few pounds?

Get on a treadmill or something for Pete's sake.

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I do agree wit hthe premise that we should alter the system to reward marriage and hard work.

However at some point you have to deal with the fact that people have a bad habit of not dying when it would be convenient for you. When their grandmother needs meds some percentage of the population will just let her die. And when a husband gets injured and can't work some percentage will starve or freeze.

But some will turn to crime.

This at least needs to be addressed. Personally I'd like to see a better shelter system instead of paying for houses and the like. Where people could stay warm and fed but not have access to the rest and actually do some work by pooling watching the kids in the shelter.

The medical issue is bigger and applies to much more than just the poor. I don't know how rich you have to be to pay for all your medical expenses until you're over a hundred years old but I bet it has to be upper class if not outright rich.

The theory with universal healthcare is that it will focus on prevention, which will reduce the cost of treatment. In the end it may reduce the costs of everyone's healthcare,but instead of paying for the healthcare it will come in taxes, but I am unsure if it will. But most sources that i have seen have said that it will reduce the overall cost.

This article has other articles that have studies that predict that the healthcare cost would fall if universal healthcare is used.
http://personalinsure.about.com/cs/h.../aa060903a.htm

No one is really entitled to such things but if it will reduce the overall cost, which it might, than there is no real reason against it.

THTAS WHY I POSTED SO MUCH INFORMATION! SO EVERYONE COULD GET THE FULL STORY!

I don't know how true that is I have relatives who live way below the poverty line at a little over $1,000 a month. Its a miracle that they can still afford their lives right now.

That would be a yearly income of over $12,000, the poverty level is $10,787.


http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/pover.../thresh07.html

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This is doubtful unless this country as a whole gets really smart about how it chooses to live. So many people are obese that it is disgusting and heart disease and diabetes is developing at a rapid pace due to so many unhealthy lifestyles. It doesn't even begin to consider the number of preventative medicine that people "require" because they refuse to eat better, exercise, or both. It might drop costs slightly due to a larger pool of people, but one would be naive to think that with the rising costs of health care this is an affordable plan. I'm sorry if I don't understand why I should be subsidizing pigs, drunks, and smokers.

The main problem I see is that it supposedly would cut costs through preventative care, however, it also removes the incentive for people to perform basic, easy tasks to stay healthy. Too many people want a magic pill for everything, and too many people want everything paid for them.