![]() |
|
| Sponsored Links |
| Red Cross - Donate Today Save the Rainforest |
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
||||
|
Quote:
Poor people are always more likely to reproduce independent of belief system. They have more need for a large family to eventually support them. Belief systems, though, seem to be a large variable in how many kids people have. There are always going to be more jobs for the poor than jobs for the well-off... so I would venture to guess that if we want a population large enough to sustain the economy, we need poor people to reproduce (considering the number of births that are accidents in all classes, it would still happen). Especially if you don't want to depend on immigrants to replace the population (which it seems from other threads, you wouldn't like). I also don't believe the government should be actively involved in telling us which people can have kids. By all the numbers and crap, my wife and I are people who "should" reproduce... but it is not in our plan as of yet. Besides our kid would probably be against eugenics too.
__________________
"Man lives in the sunlit world of that which he believes to be reality. But unseen by most is an underworld, a place that is just as real... but not as brightly lit... A DARK SIDE!" -opening from Tales From the Darkside |
|
|||
|
And why? Because the system encourages them to do so by lowering their tax burden and offering them lots and lots of »social« help.
I doubt that. The more developed a nation becomes, the more demanding the jobs it offers become. Why are people »poor«? Because they are not intelligent enough to get a job that pays good - but requires a good qualification. The more developed a nation becomes, the less jobs for »poor« (i. e. dummies) it will offer. |
|
||||
|
Quote:
Quote:
And if labor jobs are eliminated... what happens next? The "better" jobs become devalued. The people with them become the new poor. They either get paid less... or prices go up. We still need poor people. It's the able-bodied folks who don't work at all you've got a beef with. Why take it out on working folks and disabled and families that believe in raising kids themselves? And frankly I'd argue that the current welfare state victimizes the able-bodied who don't work by making them dependent rather than pushing them to work.
__________________
"Man lives in the sunlit world of that which he believes to be reality. But unseen by most is an underworld, a place that is just as real... but not as brightly lit... A DARK SIDE!" -opening from Tales From the Darkside |
|
||||
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
|
|
||||
|
Quote:
2) What % of taxes do you believe go to subsidizing lazy people? 3) Do you consider 65+ year old white women to be lazy? (Hint: What demographic group is the largest recipient of welfare) Old white lady "Excuse me sonny, would you mind helping me cross the street?" Crazy guy "Hey you lazy scumbag, why are you not at work instead of out here looking for a helping hand and other people to do everything for you?" Ixtellor
__________________
_______________________________________ George W. Bush "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building" Blasphemy is a victimless crime. |
|
||||
|
Quote:
But speaking of astounding... I'm amazed by people who believe they are islands. Do you not understand how the economy works. The reason you can get by doing one job and survive... is because other people are doing other jobs so you don't have to. This includes jobs held by people you deem "useless" because they make less money than you. It's interesting to see what's in people's heads.
__________________
"Man lives in the sunlit world of that which he believes to be reality. But unseen by most is an underworld, a place that is just as real... but not as brightly lit... A DARK SIDE!" -opening from Tales From the Darkside |
|
|||
|
Maybe he enjoys the debate?
Quote:
I think she was when she did not save enough money for a decent old age pension. Isn't everybody responsible for himself? |
|
|||
|
Quote:
I just do not know why I should respect people who »make« their living on my expense. |
![]() |
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
| Sponsored Links |
|