![]() |
|
| Sponsored Links |
| Red Cross - Donate Today Save the Rainforest |
|
|||
|
Just think it over. A flat tax of - just as an example - 500 $ a month would generate a total tax amount for the US of about 1.5 trillion $ a year. 500 $ per month is affordable by everybody - and do not forget that there would be no other tax (VAT, State taxes, gasoline tax and so on) at all.
So where do you see the problem? |
|
||||
|
Quote:
So between tax and rent, you're looking at between $20,400 and $26,400. The median household income last I new was around 30-40,000... and a lot of people make less than that with families of three or more. For instance I can think of at least one couple with a kid where the man is a breadwinner and makes around $20,000. So for that family, we're saying... before food... they are in debt to the government... or living on the street. A lot of studies show that the costs of another parent working (especially one with no specific skill or education) would outweigh the income from that job... so the wife getting a job would probably only lead to a harder time raising a decent kid. Meanwhile a multibillionaire pays $6000 and doesn't even notice. Somehow this does not strike me as a fair or efficient system.
__________________
"Man lives in the sunlit world of that which he believes to be reality. But unseen by most is an underworld, a place that is just as real... but not as brightly lit... A DARK SIDE!" -opening from Tales From the Darkside |
|
|||
|
Quote:
The system we have today is nothing more but a subsidy for social classes whose existence is not really necessary for the common welfare. As it is today people who don't pay tax at all have a vote. With this vote they can elect politicians with a »social conscience« that rob the diligent to make unearned presents to the lazybones and/or stupid. So at least people should have political rights adequate to the amount of tax they pay. Those who pay much should have much votes, those who pay nothing should not have a vote at all. That would be just. The taxation systems in the western world of today are just insane. |
|
||||
|
So people who can get by now perfectly fine and responsibly on little money, which they work for, are now "useless classes" that should be taxed out of existence or lose their right to vote?
Doesn't sound just to me. Frankly, being that I don't trust the wealthy any more than the poor, if such a system existed, I'd expect people in power to do whatever they could to keep their workers and anyone else with differing interests from being able to make enough to pay taxes. I suppose checks and balances don't exist in your definition of justice, do they? Sounds like fascism with a friendly face.
__________________
"Man lives in the sunlit world of that which he believes to be reality. But unseen by most is an underworld, a place that is just as real... but not as brightly lit... A DARK SIDE!" -opening from Tales From the Darkside |
|
|||
|
So you think it is just that the government takes away your hard-earned money to give it to others that did not work so hard or did not work at all? To me this system appears als blatantly unjust socialism.
|
|
||||
|
Quote:
Your tax scheme would starve out or disenfranchise a lot of working folks. I won't even get into the public goods your overlooking (there are a few involved in "giving to those who don't work", as you put it)... It's irrelevant when the tax system itself would create an oligarchy.
__________________
"Man lives in the sunlit world of that which he believes to be reality. But unseen by most is an underworld, a place that is just as real... but not as brightly lit... A DARK SIDE!" -opening from Tales From the Darkside |
|
|||
|
That is correct.
You are wrong. If everybody has the same rights, why the hell should some people have more duties and pay more tax? Same rights, same duties - everything else is not just. This you cannot prove. |
|
||||
|
I already did. I added up the figures for a family of three... just taxes and rent. So a family with a household income of $20,000 would either be on the street or in debt to the government.
__________________
"Man lives in the sunlit world of that which he believes to be reality. But unseen by most is an underworld, a place that is just as real... but not as brightly lit... A DARK SIDE!" -opening from Tales From the Darkside |
|
|||
|
No. The wife would just have to work, too - and so double the income. That would be sufficient for the tax burden - especially as the cost of living would be significantly lower than today as there would be no other tax (e.g. VAT or state tax) at all.
I do not understand why you think other taxpayers should subsidize the lazyness of certain people who do not want to work. |
![]() |
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
| Sponsored Links |
|