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The only things that can save our nation is extreme totalitarian fascist reform. I will be covering a number of things but not all, that would take far too long.
First off the abolishment of all political parties except of course the fascist party that would be in power. The dismantlement of the senate and congress. Unlimited power will be given to the President-General and his Grand Council. The 50 state will be transformed into four sectors and the governors of those four sectors will be hand picked by President-General. Useless civil rights and liberties that get in the way of national unity will be thrown out, so that the people can unify under the loving and guiding hand of the state. The totalitarian society will call for martial law and unlimited surveillance so that we may keep the true citizens happy and safe from those who wish to harm them and the state. Phones, mail, emails will be censored and read by the state. The media will be ran by the state, only things approved by the state will be allowed to exist. Television newspaper, magazines, everything in the media will be ran and controlled by the state. Only books approved by the state will exist to root out any national traitors. The internet will also be censored if allowed at all. Free media creates people to make a choice and form opinions and this leads to division because of differencing opinions. That is why it will be state ran. Banks, healthcare, and the educational system will all be nationalized. All privately ran organizations will be shut down and only state ran organizations will be allowed to exist. Children will be sent to "life training camps" when they are seven and will stay there until they are 17 making occasional visits home for special occasions. In these camps they will learn all the things they do at a public school now days but will also be taught how to use weapons, learn loyalty to there nation and state , they will learn how to work hard making occasional trips to farms and such. The boys and girls will also be separated, boys will be taught to be proper men and the girls taught to be women with the two meeting weekly for social gatherings. The state will make a suggestion to each child to take into a relationship based on there genetics. All foreign military bases will be shut down all over the world and the troops will be all brought home to defend the homeland. The military budget will be largely increased and a draft will began with an aim of 4 million land solders. Military service will be required at some point in ones life, preferably at age18 and a one 12 years minimum active duty term. Some will be strongly encouraged to stay in the military for there entire lives. Any religion may be practiced as long as it does not become a threat the nation or the state, once a religion becomes a threat those members of that religion will be gather up and deported. All Religious services will be monitored by camera and by three state police officers that would be present. People that practice religion must always recognize that the state comes first above a religion and that there loyalty must always be first to the state. All immigration must be stopped especially illegal immigration, A 30 ft tall wall 7 ft wide with barbwire out 250 yards on each side between the US and Mexico with US soldiers monitoring it. Anyone that gets here illegally will be treated as an invader and shot. Legal immigration will not be taken either. Morals will be reinforced, homosexuality will be considered an act of selfish individuality and therefore would be against the law and will be treated as such. Either death penalty or 40 years sentences. Abortion will be legal only in the cases of Rape, retardation, physical deformity, heredity disease, or if the mothers life is in danger. other than that abortion will not be legal, however pregnancy will be planned by the state, based on a few fascist it the parents can afford to bring up the child (if a parent can not finically bring up a child then they do not deserve one) and if they are suitable which will be judged by a state given test, and finally if there genetics approve them to have a healthy child. \ Pornography will be wiped out naturally as the media well be ran by the state. The execution of the left will be launched anyone that was formally apart of left wing political organizations will be gathered by the state, Communists, liberals, libertarians, and anarchists will be executed as conspirators. Former socialist and moderate democrats will be sent to re-education camps. Law and order will be enforced by the totalitarian fascist society. There will be capital punishment (death penalty) for capital crimes. (Murder, rape, child molestation, treason, openly and extremely individualistic) all smaller crimes will have a 10 year minimal at a work camp. Prisons will be shut down and turned into work camps. The homeless and jobless will also go to work in work camps but unlike the criminals will be paid. The economy as fascism preaches will be ran by 25 or 26 national corporations. There will be 22 Labor unions and all will be ran by the state and striking will be illegal, but the state will make sure that the workers and employer are united. In a fascist society classes still exists but they are untied by the state and work together, it will be illegal for corporations to go over seas for jobs. Prisoners and the homeless will field the jobs no one wants. The 8 hour work day will be increased just 2 hours to a 10 hour work day by the state, however for this extra time as the state controls the wages they will be raised largely. The state controls the economy through its corporations. Fascism when it comes to the economy is controlled capitalism or Corporatism. The state will launch an isolation pull out of all treaties, international organizations, free trades, everything becoming completely isolated and will attempt to become self-sufficient. People will live there lives by a state given schedule they will be required to exercise at least twice a weak and will be strongly encouraged to join a state ran organization as they are the only kind that exist. Cameras will be put up on nearly ever street and everything will be monitored in society. People will be given national ID cards that you must always carry, for protection and medical purposes and so that they know, where you are to contact you in an emergency, this I also how you will buy, as the state will eliminate currency and create a credit system in the place of physical money . Vehicles will also have computer chips so that the state can always locate your vehicle for your Good. The state or local state government must approve any extra activities. Well this is just a short list of things that need to be change, but anyway. FASCISM FORWARD ALL RACES ALL RELIGIONS UNITE UNDER THE STAE ONE MIND ONE BODY ONE NATION
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well actually to be honest I have met vary little arguments when discussing with everyday people passing out flyers and at coffee shops and such, and actually allot of them agree with most of what I have to say, so no I don’t know what your talking about, Most people when they think of fascism think of something evil, but that could not be further from the truth.
Most of the arguments I do have are off the internet, because from my experience is one of the few things dominated by liberals. Maybe thats why they cant get anyone elected, because there all playing on the net. This is the first time I have been on here in about 3 or 4 months I think. Now to answer you question above all else fascism is about whats doing the absolute best for the entire nation, so if the dictator turned to communism (seriously doubt) and he believed it would work for that particular time so be it. I have never seen a fascist dictator turn communist, by the way the short list of openly fascist nations Benito Mussolini-Italy Francisco Franco-Spain Augusto Pinochet -Chile Ioannis Metaxas- Greece António de Oliveira Salazar-Portugal
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What would prevent a dictator from putting their own interest ahead of their country's? Then there is another central problem. With the above agenda, who would live a more fulfilled or meaningful life? Everything would be efficient, of course, but who would that efficiency help?
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That is why you have a grand council that’s the one way the dictator can be thrown out is by his Grand council of six. Nevertheless, he has to be completely going of the chain, and fascism is a dictatorship of the benevolent which means it does what’s good for the nation and government.
It cannot be any worse than democracy, in a democracy all it is a bunch of lobbyists for a certain group or a lot of the time for there own personal interest, so if you wnat to play that card what's the differance. It would help everyone, how couldn't it efficiency is always best are you saying you prefer chaos? All people live a meaning full life according to there class, all classes are given since of gratitude from the state and are rewarded with vacations and bonuses and such. Letting them know everyone counts and are needed.
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Well, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Apart from that, I'll give you an example of why no one would benefit from fascism. Take the idea of people marrying based on genetics. That would make married couples' lives horrible, but supporters of eugenics could claim that it would benefit the next generation. But then the next generation would have to do the same thing. If it stopped at any point, "genetically imperfect" marriages would return and we would be back where we started. So each generation would sacrifice itself, supposedly for the happiness of the next, but the people of the next generation could never be happy because they, too, would be forced to donate their lives to the same concept. That applies to every tenet of fascism. People give up rights to gain something, but their expected gains are never realized. Finally, even ignoring sympathy, the most efficient society would be an anarcho-capitalist one, since all government creates economic inefficiency. I am not an anarcho-capitalist, but I point that out to show that fascism is not even the most productive system.
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You are of the impression that ordinary people are okay with the things you say. What ordinary people? And how are you posing the statements/questions? Not that I don't believe you about whatever location you're talking about but if that is true, it is sad for America. Both conservatives and liberals can agree on this point.
One-party system? Nationalized banks, healthcare, eductaion, and business? Never mind the fact that that's bad economics, but that is completely against the entrepreneurial freedom this country was founded on. Government controlled media? Terrific. So there goes anything to even link the country with the democratic republican ideas it has a history of. People are not free if they do not have freedom to information, since information guides choice. No separation of powers? Control over religion (no religion that might pose a threat- love to see how that'll be interpreted)? Stop all immigration (have you noticed what happens to European countries with no immigration? Do you plan on banning birth control too?)? State-controlled morality? Murder of political dissenters? Cameras everywhere?! People living their lives by a government-regulated schedule?! You make Communism sound like a pipe dream! You describe every futuristic police state horror movie! And people agree with you?! Maybe on things like death penalty, nationalized healthcare, stuff like that... the "normal" issues, pressing issues. But you're saying that people are actually okay with giving up every ounce of freedom they have in order to live life in security and boredom? Willing to allow atrocity without dissent? Willing to put absolute faith in a dictator? Willing to live pre-packaged lives? Willing to accept an inferior economic and cultural system that will not adapt to change and not follow the laws of the market? If the masses are with you on this, then %#$@# this country, what it's become. If people would rather live as slaves in order to have the illusion of security (all the while having to fear their own government), I guess it's time to hang up the hat. Even if you're for the war going on, might as well bring the troops home. This is not worth dying for. Thankfully I think you're wrong. They're either humoring you or you're not giving them the whole story. Your Utopian vision is a nightmare for Americans. Try selling it in another country.
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Ok I will address the comments by the order in which they posted.
If you read it wrong or I miss wrote something I apologize I said the state would strongly suggest a mate, not that they would force you. So no one would suffer, the people will however, that choose to take our suggestion will merely be thanked handsomely. Moreover, how do you figure that there gains are never realized. In addition, I would have to completely disagree with you about anarcho-capitalist, a corporate economy is indeed the most sufficient. The government bases there wage on there production which is indeed the most intelligent way of doing a business. Here is some facts about fascist economy -Fascist Italy was one of the first nations if not the first to come out f the depression in Europe. -Fascist Italy was the first nation to create the minimum wage -Fascist Italy was the first nation to give workers pay when they can’t work for whatever reason. -Fascist Italy gave money to it’s people when emergencies occurred, a relative dies or whatever in a time that required money. -Americas new deal took allot from Mussolini’s idea, that is a fact look, it up. Now to the Java Black Character From seeing posts you have written in the past you appear to be a liberal therefore are going to slant my ideas to look "bad" as to fit you liberal agenda. So I’ll pay that part of you no mind. Anyway.... I make a trip to different places about 3 times a week to distribute flyers and pamphlets, in which I have had many conversations. People will come up allot of the time and say yell I completely agree. About twice a week I make my self go to either coffee shops or somewhere of that nature and beginning conservations...I have even formed a small group in my area which I plan to turn into a actual political party in 2009. Nationalized banks will mean our money belongs to us and not the WMS which I think would be a good thing, most people have agreed. National healthcare saves way more lives and is much more efficient than (*)(*)(*)(*) hole we have now to put frankly. Man you guys must seriously not be reading this, business is not nationalized it is corporative and becomes apart of a corporation of that particular industry, by creating corporations and ever everything is under one business then it eliminates competition which means people will have to buy from those corporations if they want that particular item. The higher the production and the higher the sells of an item the higher wages become which means peoples living standards will rise. Fascism does not nationalizes it corportizes and controls the flow of the economy through the corporations. Its command capitalism if you will. Moreover, how is a utopia something not to be desired, I have learned all you liberals are the same. Birth control we not be eliminated as we feel we must stop people who can not finically bring up a cild or are genetically inefficient. Why should a man with hereditary disease, retardation or even physical handicap have a child? that’s not fair to the child… by keeping birth control and under these laws you can wipe out the weak in possibly 2 or 3 generations, its a loving way of doing it. Instead of killing them we let them lives there lives out, but simply not allowed to have children. Our nation wastes hundreds of millions every year on these people, as to where it could be put into something more needed. Not control over religion, just supervision and monitoring, people can still practice. If we had religious supervision, 9/11 may never would have happened. These programs are done to ensure safety; the state is okay with religious moderates, it is the extremist we would look for. All right, here is our interpretation right now at this point and time "Islam" would be considered a threat. Although it may be true only a minority are terrorists I believe in this "you can not look past the minority when the majority are innocent, though unfair if is safer for the rest of the people of the nation if we deport them and not take a risk.” As it is the fascist motto “ the common good over individual interests” The KKK could be considered Christian extremists and therefore members of the KKK would be sent to work or re-education camps. Zionism could be considered Jewish extremists and Zionist not Jews will be sent to Israel. And there is a difference, there is a group called “Jews against Zionism”. All people are excepted that are here legally and are born here. Do not liberties only create division? Yes they do, because people then roam freely. People can do anything but when all are united for one cause, ONE MIND ONE BDOY AND ONE NATION. So the barriers of division must be destroyed if that means the end of liberties and rights so be it, it is indeed the “common good, over individual interests” My group has about 17 members right now, that which of I lead. FASCISM FORWARD ONE MIND ONE BODY ONE NATION
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Let me ask you something, FA. Who taught you about fascism? If I had the answer to that I might better understand why you support it.
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Sure. Believe in fascism all you want. But most Americans like freedom. Without freedom, what is the point of security? And even in well-being terms, the power of freedom and the free market is the power of adapting, that power which you try to extinguish with totalitarianism. What you see as Heaven is something most Americans would see as Hell. Reading your description of fascism doesn't change my view. It affirms what I already know about fascism. Government is best which governs least.
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