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Old 03-08-2007, 12:48 AM
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Votes hailed as an historic victory for British democracy
Greg Hurst, Political Correspondent
March 08, 2007


The leader of the Conservative peers gave warning last night that the Government had begun a process of unpicking Britain’s constitution after MPs backed a fully elected House of Lords by a large majority.

Lord Strathclyde, who supported an 80 per cent elected second chamber in the face of near-unanimous opposition from Tory peers, said that an all-elected Lords opened a host of questions, including the establishment of the Church of England, because 26 bishops have seats in the House.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1485966.ece
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So now what.. the House of Lords get more power and 100% elected positions? It'll be interesting to see if the Lords will still represent the Aristocrats as a counter balance to the Commoners and Royals.

..or is the whole point to abolish any connection between government and the church?
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Isn't this a hardy perennial that never actually comes to fruition?
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The Press Association Wednesday March 7, 08:01 PM

MPs vote for fully elected Lords

MPs have voted in favour of a wholly elected House of Lords, in a move which potentially paves the way for one of the most radical constitutional changes in British history.

The proposal for a 100% elected Upper House of Parliament was carried by a margin of 113, gaining the greatest support of any of seven options for the future of the Lords.

Although the vote is merely indicative and does not automatically become law, it will weigh heavily when the Government comes to draw up legislation

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/07032007/34...ted-lords.html

Now all we have to do is wait for it to happen.

Tony Blair doesn't listen to the electorate what makes the MPs think he will listen to them?
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I can't believe Britain beat Canada to a fully elected upper house. Hurry up Harper, I want to vote for my Senator.
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Default The Laws not even be written yet.

At least another 2 years before parliament can vote on any legislation.
So don't hold your breath Wildbore we haven't done it in Britain yet. This vote is only the British governments way of saying that they are thinking that they might consider a law.

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The British Parliament has many rednecks that believe the primacy of the commons would be jeopardised if the upper house had to be an elected chamber.
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Isn't this a hardy perennial that never actually comes to fruition?
Considering that it took them the better part of the last century debating if it's even a good idea or not... I'm thinking they'll spend the next century debating how to go about changing their constitution.

Anyhoo the english taking a century to mull over things is lightspeed compared to the chinese taking a millennium to think things over.
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Geez...Britain's government is a mess.

This still wont solve the issue of Royal Assent...which is the real reason Britain's democracy is so ambiguous.

I suppose this cant be a bad thing though.
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Default 360 years talking about a constitution is a long time.

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Isn't this a hardy perennial that never actually comes to fruition?
Considering that it took them the better part of the last century debating if it's even a good idea or not... I'm thinking they'll spend the next century debating how to go about changing their constitution.
In Britain we do not have a constitution.

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I think 360 years, 2 world wars and 2 civil wars, just considering that is quite long enough.
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