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Old 08-23-2007, 03:57 AM
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So i need to tell all story,in 1939 Soviet Red Army occupeid Laplandia(its Santa home place in Finland),after occupation he need to leave home,because russian Grand Father Frost came to his house and said to go away capitalist pig,so Santa gone to Artic region and now Russia want again occupate Santa place,so soon Santa would leave artica and gone to Canada,so who next?Canada?
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So i need to tell all story,in 1939 Soviet Red Army occupeid Laplandia(its Santa home place in Finland),after occupation he need to leave home,because russian Grand Father Frost came to his house and said to go away capitalist pig,so Santa gone to Artic region and now Russia want again occupate Santa place,so soon Santa would leave artica and gone to Canada,so who next?Canada?

It seems russia makes a lot of frivolous claims like this Lomonsov ridge or something like that, ok, they plant their rag of a flag at bottom of seabed??? What are they going to now? ...... probably nothing for the next 30 -40 years like the US planting flag on moon in 1969. Do ruuskis have a seaborne oil rigs? No, not anytime soon in our foresseable future. Russkavitch still pissed from 1969 that Yankees put a flag up on moon is what it is perhaps. All this is PR moves by Putin along with bomber flights, war games with China.... i would be careful with chinkoman, he is eyeing Siberia and far east and is probing you for weaknesses. Putin can't afford any scewups leading to elections next march. But as for the Arctic, 90% is canadian.
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So i need to tell all story,in 1939 Soviet Red Army occupeid Laplandia(its Santa home place in Finland),after occupation he need to leave home,because russian Grand Father Frost came to his house and said to go away capitalist pig,so Santa gone to Artic region and now Russia want again occupate Santa place,so soon Santa would leave artica and gone to Canada,so who next?Canada?

It seems russia makes a lot of frivolous claims like this Lomonsov ridge or something like that, ok, they plant their rag of a flag at bottom of seabed??? What are they going to now? ...... probably nothing for the next 30 -40 years like the US planting flag on moon in 1969. Do ruuskis have a seaborne oil rigs? No, not anytime soon in our foresseable future. Russkavitch still pissed from 1969 that Yankees put a flag up on moon is what it is perhaps. All this is PR moves by Putin along with bomber flights, war games with China.... i would be careful with chinkoman, he is eyeing Siberia and far east and is probing you for weaknesses. Putin can't afford any scewups leading to elections next march. But as for the Arctic, 90% is canadian.
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So i need to tell all story,in 1939 Soviet Red Army occupeid Laplandia(its Santa home place in Finland),after occupation he need to leave home,because russian Grand Father Frost came to his house and said to go away capitalist pig,so Santa gone to Artic region and now Russia want again occupate Santa place,so soon Santa would leave artica and gone to Canada,so who next?Canada?

It seems russia makes a lot of frivolous claims like this Lomonsov ridge or something like that, ok, they plant their rag of a flag at bottom of seabed??? What are they going to now? ...... probably nothing for the next 30 -40 years like the US planting flag on moon in 1969. Do ruuskis have a seaborne oil rigs? No, not anytime soon in our foresseable future. Russkavitch still pissed from 1969 that Yankees put a flag up on moon is what it is perhaps. All this is PR moves by Putin along with bomber flights, war games with China.... i would be careful with chinkoman, he is eyeing Siberia and far east and is probing you for weaknesses. Putin can't afford any scewups leading to elections next march. But as for the Arctic, 90% is canadian.
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..90%?????.....whats the funy stuff,so when Canada get it?,when Minister said?...lol.....just 50% of Arctica is Canadian.....i become understand USA people,why they think so about Canada...
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It seems russia makes a lot of frivolous claims like this Lomonsov ridge or something like that, ok, they plant their rag of a flag at bottom of seabed??? What are they going to now? ...... probably nothing for the next 30 -40 years like the US planting flag on moon in 1969. Do ruuskis have a seaborne oil rigs? No, not anytime soon in our foresseable future. Russkavitch still pissed from 1969 that Yankees put a flag up on moon is what it is perhaps. All this is PR moves by Putin along with bomber flights, war games with China.... i would be careful with chinkoman, he is eyeing Siberia and far east and is probing you for weaknesses. Putin can't afford any scewups leading to elections next march. But as for the Arctic, 90% is canadian.
I still stand firm in my belief that the North Pole should remain a sovereign state. After the Germans lost in the first World War, it's been the object of much controversy, but I still believe that the people of the North Pole are strong and morally righteous and deserve to remain a sovereign state. I can assure you I believed this before they sent troops to Iraq and no matter their future decisions I will always feel this way on this issue.
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So How Arctica would become state if its just sea with out land and there live just white north bears with russian and american scientists.....hard question how and when
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So How Arctica would become state if its just sea with out land and there live just white north bears with russian and american scientists.....hard question how and when
People will move there. It's the third to last final frontier!
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ohhh...i already see how escimosians with chukotians would fight for Arctica in last battle of world,they would attack each others in boats,ohhh....dear,i already imagen this war of Alaska and Chukotka,Chukotians have big support of Abramovich(which is the world richer billioner-Chelsey and etc in his arms),what have escimosians?
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So lets see what you would say after mine post,can you read a little bit a history book of world and international sea rights and UN docs?
The North West Passage clearly belongs to Canada. Its NOT a international seaway. For it to be an international seaway under international law, it must have been used frequently throughout history. It wasn't used frequently, its barely used even today, and its only starting to get attention because the ice is melting allowing for all year use.

Also, according to the UN law of the sea, the waters within 12 miles of the coastline are the waters of that state. The islands in the North, which are Canadian and not disputed, belong to Canada and therefore the waters around them do as well. It is an archipelago, so the islands are so close together in some areas that it is impossible to cross the North West Passage without violating the 12 mile rule and being in Canadian waters.

Therefore, it is internal waters and Canada can deny passage from any other country of the world.

Also, throughout history, the US sought permission most times its ships traveled through the North West Passage, usually accompanied by a Canadian ice-breaker as well. So, why seek permission from Canada if its an international waterway? Because you recognize it belongs to us, you just make the claim its international waterway when it becomes of "strategic importance," but still don't have any legal argument to back it up, because none exists.

The US hasn't even ratified the UN law of the sea convention. So if Canada boards US ships for violating internal waters, theres nothing you can do about it, because you can't complain to the tribunal which governs international waters until you ratify the treaty. But Canada can bring any other violators of its waters to the tribunal, and that ruling, which would probably side with Canada, would be binding.
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