Yes, the good ones never really die. John F. Kennedy, the Illuminati and the Twin towers shall live in infamy.

Naming an architect sounds impressive but we are all aware that it is the structural engineers who take the pretty little picture that the architect draws and turns it into reality. Naming and architect as evidence is about as valid as naming a member of the Taliban as evidence that the buildings were destroyed by explosives.

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I think one could raise arguments against many of your points apart from the fact that, architects seem to know bugger all about load bearing structures. If the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolitions, did the aircraft crash in to the towers, or was it holographic protection or some illusion along those lines and this is something I would like the poster who started this thread to answer.

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Well, there are architects and there are architects, a really good architect who designs tall buildings for human occupancy will have a serious understanding of load bearing structures. Now, it could well happen that such an architect will pass on ideas to the structural engineering folks and they will bounce it back saying, this will never work or it would work if you change this or that or whatever, but such an architect may genuinely come up with a quality design from a structural engineering perspective. The fact that the Towers survived as long as they did, after what was I believe a beyond a worst case scenario, does not reflect badly on the architect. What does reflect badly on society in general is that building codes are not more stringent for ultra tall, human occupancy buildings.

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Structural engineers handle well the structure of the building. They are responsible for the building handling natural as well as man created dangers. They can not be expected to cover every angle which may come up in the future such as a plane that did not exist at the time crashing into one of the upper floors.

The only thing that reflects badly on society is permitting nut jobs to learn to fly a plane into tall buildings. Terrorism must be stopped at all costs.

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There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know.
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Lives in a state of war by nature.
Jonathan Swift

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Sir Winston Churchill

Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.
Sir Winston Churchill

The Boeing 707 and Douglas DC 8 were in service aircraft during the time of the construction World Trade Center, I have my doubts the building would have performed much better, had they been hit by a 707 or DC 8. It would have been unreasonable to have expected that the designers would plan for people deliberately ramming an airliner in to the Twin Towers, what was reasonable to ask to have been allowed for, was a possibility that an aircraft of the size of a 707 or DC 8 would be lost in bad weather and accidentally hit one of the Towers. There were design flaws in these buildings, for example the emergency stairs were portioned off using drywall sheeting, which risked the stairs becoming blocked to the persons above, if say a bomb was detonated on a lower floor.


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With your last sentence you could convince me that it was NOT a controlled demolition. I don't understand that Mr. Gage didn't consider that... something so simple. HOW did you hear about the fact people's eardrums didn't pop?

WHY and for what reason do educated people still doubt the 9/11 official story?

There was a special they did on the 14 survivors of the North Tower. They describe in detail what they experienced during the collapse.

Well worth the watch.

As for your second question, I can tell you what I suspect and I am sure it only applies to some. There are always exceptions.

I believe there are people who don't like feeling like their world is out of control. They don't like the idea that terrorists can come in, strike us hard by surprise, and we can't really touch them. They would much rather have a known enemy that they can track and keep an eye on than believe a handful of terrorists can upset their way of life so dramatically.

**WARNING** Some foul language in this video

Leslie Robertson, the structural engineer in charge of designing the twin towers, did indeed design the towers to withstand the scenario you describe. A low, slow flying plane (707) hitting the tower. He designed it to withstand that impact. His design worked. His design worked far beyond what he designed it for. A 707 flying slow is no match for a 767 flying at top speed, yet the towers were able to withstand the impact.

What the buildings were NOT tested for was what would happen with the fires that would be ignited on several floors and across the entire floor at once while also severing the fire suppression systems AND knocking off insulation from support structures.

Thanks for the videos, Patriot.
Those 14 people, are they the only survivors? They don't complain about having suffered busted eardrums.

What, to me, doesn't make sense, is WHY did the US, IF they wanted to start the war on "Terrorism" with a legitimate reason, have to use four airplanes? Wouldn't the two that flew into the Towers have been more than enough?

Here is a worthwhile video... (don't mind the German speaker in the beginning and inbetween.)

If you are referring to Ronan Point, no, it wasn't. It was an explosion of gas build up on the top floor, if I remember rightly.